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Okay, some more quotes:

Belongs under Card-Carrying Villain most likely.

Probably falls under Lack of Empathy more.

Possibly belongs under For the Evulz, or the above mentioned trope.

Unsure where this one should go.

Edited by AustinDR on Feb 19th 2019 at 8:38:17 AM

Yeah those aren't really good. I agree with you on where they should go. I don't know where last one would fit either.

Edited by Bullman on Feb 19th 2019 at 11:32:05 AM

Bell also voiced, ironically enough, Duke from GI Joe.

As for what he did, I'll need to rewatch his special (again, have the Shout Factory DVD), but his crimes include "attempt to banish Ponyland's entire pony population to a desolate alternate dimension and enslave literally everyone else".

Alright, added Lavan to the draft page.

Edited by Godzillawolf on Feb 19th 2019 at 8:35:32 AM

You can put Crayak's under Killer Game Master

I post this because i need to get this out of my system.

What's the Work

"Painkiller Jane vs The Darkness" is non-canon crossover between "The Darkness" and "Painkiller Jane". The premise is both Jackie Estacado (protagonist of "The Darkness") and Jane are hunting down one con man Terrence J. Flannery, who conned them both in one way or another. As Terrence was attacked by gang of pissed off ninja, for conning them too, he is saved by mysterious woman called "The Striper", who drive him to her house. There he find some horrible secret.

My candidate is "The Stripper" herself.

Who is He/What Has He Done

"The Stripper" introduced by picking up Terrence on the street, saving him from bunch of angry ninja. Losing them on the way, "The Stripper" invites him to her house and offers him to sit, asking if anyone knows or cares to find him in her house. Excited Terrence, thinking that she would offer him her services as a striper, answers "no" and sit on a chair, only for handcuffs to lock him there. It was in this moment "The Stripper" reveals that "she's not that kind of striper" and show off her closed, full off removed human skin. There she prepares to fill him up full of pain-killers, so that he could watch her "strip" him and wonders which part of him she's gonna "strip" first. As Painkiller Jane and Estacado track down Terrence in her house, they see him still alive with most of his skin removed as he begs them to save him. Then "The Stripper" attacks them and managed to wound Jane and Estacado, but because of Estacado's healing powers (which he gets from "Darkness" that inhabits him) he was able to quickly regenerate and use his powers to kill "The Stripper".

Freudian Excuse/Mitigating Factors

I don't know how much sanity requires to count for this trope, that's why I hesitated to bring her before. She's clearly sane enough to develop plans to capture her victims, she asked Terrence (before capturing him) if someone is going to look for him (showing that she knows what she's doing is wrong) and she is quite sadistic. Among her victims she is mentioned "Doctor Brown, who had to admit that I'm not REALLY mad", so I don't know if it counts for something, even though that line delivered without providing any context for if he was her doctor or he was just one of her victims, who happens to be a doctor and who called her mad in the heat of the moment.

Heinous Standard

For 1 issue non-canon work she easily passes. Around a dozen victims, killed in extremely sadistic way, by removing their skin, while their alive. She mentioned killing this way her parents, some doctor, pizza guy, some poor vomiting man and "all those hehehe other people".

Final Verdict

I'm interested what other people think.

to those I missed.

Slight to "The Stripper".

Weak yes to the Stripper.

Has Badger from The Walking Dead: A New Frontier been debated on here yet?

Edited by AFreakyDude on Feb 19th 2019 at 9:38:22 AM

Wasn't there a plan to check whether listed RP CMs were verifiable or not? If so, may I ask what came of it?

Don't think so, but there's this:

• Even Evil Has Loved Ones: He seems to be genuinely upset over the death of his friends.

"Stripper" seems a yes. Doesn't seem any crazier than Joker or Carnage.

Edited by ACW on Feb 19th 2019 at 1:03:28 PM

I guess for "The Stripper".

"Stripper"

Another for the odd CM name list.

the Stripper. Geeze.

Skinning people alive is a sadistic way to kill someone.

To The Stripper. Alright we’ve got a stripper to count

to the Stripper.

VVV, you say non-canon, right? So she can just go to the main comics page.

BTW, we still need to create a Creator.Top Cow Productions Creator page so the Shared Universe can get its own page.

Michael Bell also voiced both Drew Pickles and Chaz Finster On Rugrats.

I have a great quote for Poppy, but I can’t recall what it is exactly right now.

I think she can go to "Top Cow Universe" page, first because it still feature characters from "Shared Universe" and second because on other pages (Like Batman one and Spider Man one) non-canon crossovers are listed, so why make this one exception?

Edited by VeryVileVillian on Feb 19th 2019 at 9:35:04 PM

True...although The Mighty is just under main comics instead of DC.

Honestly, I'm fine either way.

Also, it looks like Top Cow is (was? Is it still?) part of Image Comics, FWIW.

"Top Cow Productions" was created by artists, who left "Image Comics" to "try their luck" so to say. They have some partnership in business and "Top Cow" picked up some unfinished projects or bought off rights to some of "Image Comics" properties (like Cyberforce, which they bought after 1 volume was finished) and that's pretty much all connections they have.

Edited by VeryVileVillian on Feb 19th 2019 at 9:47:22 PM

Ah, gotcha. So I'll have 2 groups: One for the shared universe and one for others. Once the creator page is created.

Stripper (but I don't even know her)

Here's a project I've been wanting to do since September of 2018. Laziness has been preventing me from completing this little EP project of mine, and today, I have decided to finally complete it once and for all.

What Is the Work?

Syphon Filter is a series of games by Eidetic that started in 1999 and has concluded in 2007. The series followed the shadow (moses) of Metal Gear Solid, with its somewhat stealth gameplay, and its plot involving a government conspiracy. The series is often paired with both Metal Gear and the Splinter Cell series as the trifecta of stealth games (at least from the early 2000's), with protagonist Gabe Logan even getting a namedrop in MGS3.

The series concerns the titular Syphon Filter virus, which is programed to affect specific groups such as ethnicities, demographics, and continents. Think of it like Foxdie, except worse. It’s up to Agency agents Gabriel “Gabe” Logan and Lian Xing to stop the virus, halt the conspiracy, and take down its shadowy organization... the Agency. Dun Dun!

I have 3 candidates from the series. If there are more, I will post them at a later date, but given the high heinous standard of the series, who knows?

Who Is he?

Erich Rhoemer is the African-German terrorist leader of the Black Baton, an organization involved in terrorism and other illegal activities. With news of his actions reaching Russian assassin wild card Mara Aramoc and Pharcom, the makers of the virus, they decided to hire him to work for them, with Erich joining the Syphon Filter project as a way to use the virus for his own benefits.

He serves as the ultimate threat of the first game, while also appearing in flashbacks in the third game leading up to the events of the first game.

What has he done?

Born in Leipzig, Germany in 1964, much of Rhoemer’s early life is shrouded in mystery, however he eventually became a terrorist, becoming responsible for various attacks throughout the world. He gained enough power to start his own organization called the Black Baton, which would employ thousands of criminals and mercenaries to work towards his goals. The earliest recorded date to their existence is 1994 (with Mara Aramov's involvement), however it is possible that the organization has existed for longer. As a terrorist, he was responsible for hijacking an airplane from the Gulf Airlines in Istanbul, Turkey during the year of 1995. He was later responsible for a bombing on the Comms Parks building in London, United Kingdom during the year of 1997. Apart from these attacks, he has ties to various terrorist organisations throughout the world including South America, the Middle East, Europe and the former USSR.

In 1998, Gabriel Logan and Lian Xing (as part of The Agency) were placed in the International Terrorism Unit with the goal of capturing Rhoemer. At some point in time here, Rhoemer became involved with both Pharcom and Edward Benton, however he wouldn't become involved with The Agency until after the Costa Rica Operation. Working with Mara Aramov and Agency leader Markinson, Erich meets with scientist Jonathan Phagan, the man who has created the virus.

In 1999, Logan and Lian are assigned by the Agency to infiltrate Rhoemer’s base and capture him with the help of fellow agent Ellis, who is kidnapped. When Rhoemer hears of Gabe and Lian coming after him in his hideout in Costa Rica, he orders the Syphon containers, the cure, and everything else to be burned, and one of his men, Ellis, executed by Aramov for being an informant to the Agency. Afterwards, Logan chases after him into his escape plane. Calling his gunned down soldiers “useless”, he parachutes out when it seems Logan gains the upper hand. Heading to the DC subway system, he plants bombs in there in an attempt to lure Gabe there, only to detonate one bomb placed in the subway, destroying the entire thing as part of his escape plan, though Gabe makes it out okay. Then, more bombs are planted in the park, this time able to spread the virus upon detonation. Once they’ve been defused, Erich heads for his small base in Kazakhstan.

His ultimate plan is to launch a whole bunch of nuclear missiles containing the virus for no reason other than because he can. When Gabe is assigned to stop the missiles from launching at Erich’s base, Erich kidnaps Lian, infects her with the virus, burns her base in order to fake her death, then sends one of his choppers to kill Gabe. He also has Johnathan Phagan taken to his stronghold in the Ukraine catacombs, where he keeps prisoners, giving them to Phagan to experiment on, and shipping the test subjects around the world to infect others. When Gabe breaks into the catacombs, Erich orders every prisoner to be executed.

When Gabe and Lian try to stop a war going on between Phagan’s men and Erich’s men, they take the time to investigate why they’re fighting, as well as they’re plan to use the virus. Gabe comes across Markinson and a giant missile. Markinson came to stop the missile, but Erich shoots him before he could stop it. Erich to Gabe reveals that the missile was all his idea, with his plan to put the virus inside the missile and launch it anywhere in the world, ensuring the deaths of millions, and possibly start World War 3, though he couldn't care any less if that were to happen. With the missile thankfully stopped by Gabe—who also tries to download the virus so that he can bring it back to HQ for the vaccine—Erich tries to kill Gabe with a grenade launcher, serving as the final boss of the first game. He is easily defeated by a gas grenade, choking to death.

Redeeming Qualities?

While he worked for the Agency, he was only using them as a way to fund his activities. He also tried to save some of his scientists from his burning base, though it was only because he needed them to continue his operation.

Heinousness?

There are a lot of evil people in the series who want to do really bad things like infect the world with gas, and so on. It's honestly comparable to 24, where everyone wants to annihilate a bunch of countries. Erich, meanwhile, is very nasty. Gabe hates him and considers him something of a personal arch enemy, and his plans were this close to starting a third world war, something that not many villains in the series really do. And while he didn’t likely intend another world war, he certainly wouldn’t have cared nonetheless if it were to have happened. While there are some Rhoemer-like expies throughout the series, they don't match his cruelty and love of destruction and murder. He's kind of like the Kurgan.

Conclusion

I think he’s a keep.

Edited by therealjackieboy on Feb 19th 2019 at 11:10:11 AM

erich

Yes to Erich.