the Retromancer
"Just repeating the phrase" strikes me instead as "emphasis is implied" form of ZCE, so it's not an issue with the trope itself. I support simply renaming (Saying Twice For Emphasis) and cleanup.
Edited by Amonimus on Apr 24th 2024 at 3:47:19 PM
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to rename + cleanup
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We already have Repeated for Emphasis, though.
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Merge with Repeated for Emphasis. One-Liner, Name... One-Liner appears to be The Same, but More Specific to Repeated for Emphasis in addition to heavily misused.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 11:53:46 AM
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Merge
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Yeah, merging does sound like a good idea.
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the Retromancer
Repeated for Emphasis would need to be altered because it's specifically for a single word, but in retrospect it's an odd limitation.
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Slight alteration to Repeated for Emphasis, merge One-Liner, Name... One-Liner with Repeated for Emphasis.
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I agree that it's an odd limitation, so we can adjust the definition of Repeated for Emphasis to allow phrases in addition to single words if we merge One-Liner, Name... One-Liner into it.
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Merge and adjust Repeated for Emphasis’ definition.
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#11 sounds like a plan.
Edited by StarSword on Apr 24th 2024 at 7:13:07 AM
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It's best to merge, GastonRabbit. It's best to merge.
Edited by Nen_desharu on Apr 24th 2024 at 2:25:11 PM
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Animu
While we are at it, why don't we merge Double Don't Know too? It has the same problem of The Same, but More Specific to Repeated for Emphasis.
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I think we could do that, because looking at the description, it does appear to be redundant.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 25th 2024 at 6:35:33 AM
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I'm just going to go ahead and officially expand the thread's scope to include merging Double Don't Know into Repeated for Emphasis as an option alongside the existing proposal of merging One-Liner, Name... One-Liner into Repeated for Emphasis. I don't think we need a wick check because the description makes the definition clear enough already (particularly the relationship between it and Repeated for Emphasis and One-Liner, Name... One-Liner), and the wick count isn't terribly high anyway, but if anyone wants to do one anyway, go ahead.
Edit: Tagged Double Don't Know.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 25th 2024 at 6:48:44 AM
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Animu
Double Don't Know does have a wick check and OP by Laundrypizza 03. It's at position 75 in the TRS Queue.
Edited by animuacid on Apr 25th 2024 at 1:49:11 PM
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OK, that's good to know. We can still handle it through this thread because its wick count is low enough to not add too much to the workload.
Edit: Edited the OP to mention that this thread covers Double Don't Know, and added a link to its wick check. Let's leave Double Don't Know on the Queue for now in case we end up not taking any action through this thread, because if that happens, a dedicated thread might get a different result (similarly to what happened with Sexy Spectacles and Peek A Bangs in the past).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 25th 2024 at 6:54:20 AM
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Animu
The description of Double Don't Know claims to signify that "the protagonist is (dramatically) out of ideas", but Repeated for Emphasis also mentions the dramatic element. Besides, less than 28 examples of the intended usage is very poor for a 2007 trope.
Wouldn't mind if it got merged.
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It occurred to me that ~Laundry Pizza 03 should be paged to this thread due to Double Don't Know being covered in this thread, though as I previously said, Double Don't Know could still get the originally planned dedicated thread if this thread ends up not doing anything with it.
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Do we have anything to put on the crowner other than these?
- Merge One-Liner, Name... One-Liner with Repeated for Emphasis, and adjust Repeated for Emphasis's definition if necessary
- Merge Double Don't Know with Repeated for Emphasis, and adjust Repeated for Emphasis's definition if necessary
Those two options wouldn't be mutually exclusive with each other.
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Animu
I don't think there's anything else.
According to the laconic, it is when a statement is repeated to add emphasis. Unfortunately, unless if there are some additional words or pauses, it's not clear that emphasis is added, so most examples come off as simply repeating what was said, which makes me wonder if it's tropable.
According to One Liner Wick Check, the results are as follows:
Can this be saved in any way? We could rename it, but is there enough to keep, or should we just cut it?
Update: This thread was expanded to cover Double Don't Know. The following OP was written by Laundry Pizza 03:
Double Don't Know is just Repeated for Emphasis for "I don't know" (which isn't a tropeworthy StockPhrase by itself) — in other words, it's The Same, but More Specific. Suggest merge and cut.Wick check results:
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 25th 2024 at 8:54:35 AM
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