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#1: Feb 22nd 2023 at 6:49:38 AM

Concept Art has no examples despite not being on No On-Page Examples, but it does have 41 wicks. It was brought up in this ATT query that agreed that a TRS is necessary to decide what to do. I suppose it could be a Definition-Only Page (not seeing value in Trivia that isn't already covered by What Could Have Been, but maybe I'm wrong).

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#3: Feb 22nd 2023 at 6:58:07 AM

Definition only sounds good.

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#6: Feb 22nd 2023 at 7:59:28 AM

This is a production trivia, so Definition-Only Pages makes sense. As a trope we have What Could Have Been, Bonus Material and Concept Art Gallery where those are packaged.

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#7: Feb 22nd 2023 at 8:17:12 AM

I think it should be both Trivia and definition-only, like what we did with Model Sheet last year. (I'm surprised it's not already the former since it's supplementary material and not part of the main work.) I feel like examples could just be listed under What Could Have Been with inline wicks for this page (as with definition-only wicks in general).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 22nd 2023 at 10:18:48 AM

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#9: Feb 22nd 2023 at 10:49:46 AM

Move it to trivia + make it def-only. [tup]

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#10: Feb 22nd 2023 at 11:22:49 AM

I agree with making this trivia and definition-only. It's close enough to universal to not be worth collecting examples, and it's obviously a production detail rather than anything you'd see in the finished work.

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#12: Feb 23rd 2023 at 12:32:20 AM

[tup] Trivia and definition only

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#14: Feb 23rd 2023 at 7:48:24 AM

Let me paint my Concept Art on my drawing monitor.

I'll tag this masterpiece as Trivia + Definition Only

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#15: Feb 23rd 2023 at 12:34:13 PM

Is making this Trivia necessary when DO is sufficient? I'm not against it, just seems kind of pointless to me.

[tup] to DO at the very least.

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#16: Feb 23rd 2023 at 12:40:37 PM

I mean, I do believe that making it Trivia is necessary, because it's certainly not a trope. So yes, do both.

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#18: Feb 23rd 2023 at 4:47:48 PM

MST3K Mantra and Bellisario's Maxim weren't stripped of their YMMV status when they were made definition-only, so there's precedent for something being YMMV or Trivia in addition to definition-only.

Edit: Plus, the idea behind making it both Trivia and definition-only was because this often goes hand-in-hand with What Could Have Been, which itself is Trivia, and thus could be linked to in examples of that (rather than dedicated bullet points) when creators have shown concept art for scrapped plans instead of merely talking about them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 23rd 2023 at 8:26:01 AM

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#19: Feb 25th 2023 at 2:18:25 AM

Calling thread in favor of making Concept Art trivia and definition only.

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#20: Feb 25th 2023 at 3:27:44 AM

I updated the indexing. Not sure if the descriptor I left on Main.Trivia is good enough, so feel free to make further changes.

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Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
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#21: Feb 25th 2023 at 7:30:07 AM

Alright, I don't think any of the wicks use Concept Art as an example name, from a glance through.

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#22: Feb 25th 2023 at 8:48:20 AM

I can say more than at glance, and all wicks are either indexes or in-example links, so we may be done.

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#23: Feb 25th 2023 at 8:56:06 AM

I don't see any wicks using the page as a trope so I am going to close this as resolved.

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