On this wiki, we like to operate by consensus. Big moves and changes need community discussion, at least to a degree. However, some tropers like to do things solo...and leave a trail of messes behind for the rest of us.
This is a thread for the community to tackle these issues together. We can ping tropers over, clean up/revert changes, and in general, make sure massive alterations don't occur in secret.
I have no idea why I did that since it was so long ago, but if that’s incorrect, then feel free to revert the change.
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.Mr Servo Retro re-organized both Video Game Companies and Japanese Video Game Companies into "Active companies" and "Defunct companies" sections. They also added "Based in (country)" to (some of) the companies in the former index. Should these be reverted?
Avatar by Butterscotch Arts. Used under license.I'd say so. Some can be brought back and it just complicates things.
Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)@MasterN: Thank you for the answer!
So, on the matter of "Straw Misogynist", what say the others here then? Should that change be undone?
My Games & WritingOkay, well, given the original poster's response and the lack of other response, I intend to revert the change to Straw Misogynist, then. I'll likely do it later, however, so if there are objections, please do say!
[edit] Actually, thinking about it, that's a bit unilateral on my side, I now feel. I may take this to Ask the Tropers, then.
[edit 2] I've posted there—here is a link to the entry.
Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Mar 29th 2022 at 8:54:58 PM
My Games & Writing~Golden Seals I apologize if your edits are being reverted due to this. I get that you're helping to make these descriptions more cohesive, but it's alarming that you're not giving reasons and/or asking permission to change the descriptions to make them more cohesive.
I appreciate your intentions, but next time, please ask.
Edited by alnair20aug93 on Apr 1st 2022 at 3:53:21 AM
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔Seems the ping system picked up the punctuation marks. Trying this again.
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔Cross-query from Ask The Tropers. [1]
Jormungar deleted the following paragraph from the description of The Republic:
... with the edit reason:
Near as I can tell, this is essentially arguing that "republic" = "representative democracy", which the way I learned it is very much not true: my understanding was that the former was correct, that a "republic" was any unitary state without formally titled aristocracy.
Consensus in ATT thread is to revert.
EDIT: Post reverted.
Edited by StarSword on Apr 3rd 2022 at 2:27:45 PM
idonom made sweeping unilateral changes to No Recent Examples, Please!, one of which changed the scope of the NREP restrictions (Oppressive States of America).
~idonom pinging them here so that they can't address ^
Macron's notesI'm really sorry for making major alterations like that, I was just trying to alter the phrasing for some entries so they were more consistent with the rest of the page and easier to understand. I really wasn't trying to completely alter the scope for some of them. I just reverted the entries that I noticed had their scope unintentionally altered (if that helps). If there's any more major unilateral changes that I didn't catch, then you can just revert the page to before I edited it. Seriously, I'm sorry.
Edited by idonom on Jun 18th 2022 at 7:36:10 AM
Y'ALL JUST GOT SHREKTI found this requirement on Fair for Its Day:
Looking into the edit history, I think it might have been added unilaterally, since there is no edit reason and the troper who added it (The Poarter) had previously deleted entries on DADT. Multiple times.
I apologize if I'm mistaken, but this looks pretty problematic to me, and I thought I should at least bring it up just to be on the safe side.
It looks like the troper added it after deleting an entry on Bill Clinton on the Real Life subpage, with the comment "Don't ask, don't tell was not fair for its day. SEE DUTCH MILITARY FOR SAME TIME PERIOD." However, there were (and are) other countries in the world where the attitudes toward homosexuality were harsher, and since this was before Lawrence v. Texas it was still illegal in some U.S. states. So yeah, this one's debatable so I don't think that should be added without a discussion, probably on the description improvement thread.
So should I remove it? And should we have a chat with The Poarter?
It looks like Poarter has a history of contentious edits, so I fear this could turn into an edit war. I would bring this up at Ask The Tropers if you haven't done so already.
As of last year, ~Tropers/Dravencour added a line to Naked on Revival that the trope should be expected to overlap with Waking Up at the Morgue, apparently without discussion.
Now, Sandbox.Naked On The Wick Check shows that about 16% of wicks work with a pre-existing body. Only one of the checked wicks (2%) involves a morgue, and another (The Jon Snow complex) has the character's quarters being used as a temporary storage location in a world that doesn't have a morgue.
So, would this be a reasonable addition reflecting actual use of the trope, or is this something that we should revert back? My read on the rest of the trope description is that this one should be for situations where the resurrection needs to provide a body.
So I've been called to the thread.
When someone Wakes Up At The Morgue, chances are good that they're going to be naked, because stiffs at the morgue usually have to get stripped if the forensics people are to do an autopsy, and oftentimes there's nothing covering them up except a big white sheet.
Reposting verbatim from TLP Crash Rescue:
This happened a year ago, so it's probably too old to do anything about, but I discovered Military and Warfare Works was unilaterally created from a redirect by AHI-3000 in 2021. Given AHI's history (he got banned for unilateral moves), I wouldn't be surprised if it was an attempt to get around TLP (especially since I don't see a TLP draft with this name in his TLP history.)
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Sep 16th 2022 at 2:44:15 PM
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallThey also moved the description of Made-for-TV Movie to the analysis tab, which I think I had reverted, but then someone else saw it on the analysis tab and cut it again, leaving the page basically a stub.
Edited by Walkinshadows on Sep 16th 2022 at 3:02:02 PM
Like I said on the other tab, while this was certainly unilateral the index they made... is still a legit index, and it'd feel weird to remove it just because it was made the wrong way, y'know?
The analysis stuff should be moved back.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessFWIW I wasn't arguing for it to be reverted, I was just noting that it happened.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallYeah, I'm just restating it for the benefit of discussion, lol.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessThat's fine. You are right that the index itself is OK, it's just the method of creating it that wasn't.
Anyway let's just leave it be and move on to whatever the next unilateral change ends up being.
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That troper is active on the forums so maybe we should ping them over to ask why they did it?
~Master N
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