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On this wiki, we like to operate by consensus. Big moves and changes need community discussion, at least to a degree. However, some tropers like to do things solo...and leave a trail of messes behind for the rest of us.

This is a thread for the community to tackle these issues together. We can ping tropers over, clean up/revert changes, and in general, make sure massive alterations don't occur in secret.

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#1: Jun 18th 2021 at 6:08:41 PM

On this wiki, we like to operate by consensus. Big moves and changes need community discussion, at least to a degree. However, some tropers like to do things solo...and leave a trail of messes behind for the rest of us.

This is a thread for the community to tackle these issues together. We can ping tropers over, clean up/revert changes, and in general, make sure massive alterations don't occur in secret.

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Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#2: Jun 18th 2021 at 6:39:38 PM

I think the first thing we should do is figure out exactly what absolutely requires consensus, like obviously major page moves and redefinitions need one but something like adding one trope example doesn't. But there are the things that are more grey like the ATT thread that prompted this creation where a page with the Film was split into Live-Action Films and Animated Films I am not really sure if that requires consensus or not.

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Willowleaf24 from Somewhere buried in snow Since: Nov, 2020 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#3: Jun 25th 2021 at 9:42:28 AM

I have a question! I recently moved the content from Heartwarming.Dark Souls to Heartwarming.Dark Souls I, under the logic that the Dark Souls subpages are for the series as a whole, while Dark Souls I subpages are for the first game - and what was on Heartwarming.Dark Souls was only about the first game's moments.

However, considering the amount of content that was on the page, I'm wondering whether I should have discussed it somewhere first (probably the thread for splitting the first work in a series from the page for the series as a whole).

I mean, it's probably a good idea to get support for a move like that either way, just to be safe, but I'm not sure where the line should be drawn.

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#4: Jun 27th 2021 at 10:13:04 AM

Well, with the edit history pages now expanded, I do think I have reverted some changes by AHI-3000. Pages such as moving UsefulNotes.Public Domain to Public Domain, Ivory Coast to Côte d'Ivoire, and Soviet Union to Soviet Russia, Ukraine, and So On.

I'm tempted to reverting Saint Petersburg to The City Formerly Known as..., and Myanmar to That Southeast Asian Country.

I do think both are accurate, but I feel like it should have been discussed. I feel like there's a pattern on Useful Notes pages upon this.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Jun 28th 2021 at 1:13:18 AM

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#5: Jun 27th 2021 at 10:31:31 AM

I do think I'll stop on Timor-Leste. Next time, I'll ask here if I should revert more unilaterally-changed stuff.

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Vilui Since: May, 2009
#6: Jun 27th 2021 at 10:40:10 AM

"The City Formerly Known As" and "That Southeast Asian Country" are terrible titles that don't give any indication of what they're about or help people find the page. They're not even particularly witty.

"Soviet Russia, Ukraine and So On" is only marginally less terrible.

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#7: Jun 27th 2021 at 6:59:02 PM

[up]Don't forget that Saint Petersburg isn't the only major city in the world to be renamed recently.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Jun 27th 2021 at 10:00:15 AM

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rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#8: Jun 27th 2021 at 10:26:21 PM

AHI-3000 also unilaterally moved Global Warming to Climate Change, as I brought up here. I think that should be reverted; "climate change" can mean many things.

Edited by rjd1922 on Jun 27th 2021 at 12:27:54 PM

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#9: Jun 27th 2021 at 11:04:57 PM

Per att saying, it would be reverted.

Not sure if there'd be more comments about this.

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#10: Jun 27th 2021 at 11:27:23 PM

@Willowleaf 24, if all the examples were about the first game, then it sounds like that was the right move to make.


Some of AHI-3000's changes were to Superhero and Supervillain.

  • Supervillain formerly indexed a list of ComicBook/ supervillain pages.
  • Superhero formerly indexed superhero works. The superhero works were moved to Superhero Stories (originally created as a redirect to Superhero) and subpages thereof. AHI had planned to then move them from the subpages to "Superhero [Media]" pages in Main/ by requesting the "Superhero [Media]" pages to be made as redirects, but that request was declined.
  • Superhero Literature already existed, but was moved to SuperheroStories.Literature, I assume to match the rest.

What should be done with these?

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#11: Jun 29th 2021 at 11:24:52 AM

[up]I guess revert those.

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#12: Jun 29th 2021 at 11:33:28 AM

Also reverted Climate Change to Global Warming by the way. All we need to do is to revert all of those wicks.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Jun 30th 2021 at 2:35:43 AM

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#13: Jul 1st 2021 at 2:55:36 AM

Pinging ~Walk In Shadows, ~Willowleaf 24, ~Clancy Gardener, ~Under Cover Sailsman, and ~Laundry Pizza 03 on this.

[down]I know.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Jul 1st 2021 at 10:29:57 PM

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#15: Jul 2nd 2021 at 1:17:28 AM

Bump.


Also going to bump on what Twiddler was mentioning in the meanwhile.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Jul 2nd 2021 at 4:18:29 PM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#16: Jul 2nd 2021 at 1:18:43 AM

Why did you ping those specific tropers?

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#17: Jul 2nd 2021 at 1:25:03 AM

They were the ones who moved Global Warming to Climate Change, and they must help on reverting it.

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#18: Jul 4th 2021 at 6:44:50 AM

Well, if they're not going to come, then we'll just revert these then.

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Willowleaf24 from Somewhere buried in snow Since: Nov, 2020 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#19: Jul 5th 2021 at 1:44:08 PM

Ah, sorry about that. It was in the TRS Wick Cleaning thread, so I though it was legit. I'll start working.

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#20: Jul 22nd 2021 at 4:02:18 AM

[up]Belated thanks on that. I do think there are 128 wicks left. Anyone still wanna help?

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#21: Aug 9th 2021 at 2:15:17 AM

Bump. There are still 128 wicks on Climate Change. Anyone wanna help still?


Also, I do think this is an ideal page for the rampant undiscussed image changes so that it can be addressed to the IP threads.

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#23: Sep 12th 2021 at 3:32:52 PM

[up] Without knowing the previous content of the pages, this seems like a good idea.

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#24: Sep 13th 2021 at 3:12:43 AM

[up] You can check the pages' histories through the "Related" section.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#25: Sep 14th 2021 at 11:17:07 PM

Cleanup on aisle 4!

AHI strikes again, and we're gonna need to fix this.

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