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Yeah. Kinda. I also think it's just a great idea in general to have a solo batman and ease into the rest of the Bat family.
Or they could do Dick is night wing and in bludhaven. And Damian appears later. Which most modern works seem to do.
Wonder how joker will look?
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
The Batman and Beware the Batman both followed that formula, while Brave and the Bold had an established Bat-Family, but it unveiled it slowly due to its focus on the wider DC universe. I like solo Batman, but I'm also ready to see a Batman show with an ensemble cast right away. It's why I'm disappointed the No Man's Land pitch never took off.
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Do we know who’s cast yet? Any rumors?
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Diedrich Bader accidentally spilled the beans on Twitter that he was voicing someone. That's all we know.
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Is it Batman himself? Or?
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Apparently it was also confirmed recently that Kevin Conroy had a role on the show.
Just a person. He/him.
Maybe he was Bruce's dad in a flashback. Wouldn't be the first time.
Unless it's a case of Lying Creator, Bruce Timm revived his old Toonzone
account to deconfirm Conroy doing any voice work on Caped Crusader posthumously.
As I have to do every so often, I will remind you all once again to take all un-sourced ‘news’ items in the sci-fi/comics/entertainment cybersphere with a huge grain of salt. Occasionally these ‘leaks‘ actually turn out to be true, but often as not they’re just cynical clickbait."
Speaking of voice work, Michael Rosenbaum claimed
he auditioned to play this Batman. However, he was declined because they didn't like his take on Bruce Wayne.
Edited by XMenMutant22 on Mar 10th 2024 at 10:33:18 AM
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Dang it. Kinda sad. Lex Luther playing Batman would be amazing.
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Entertainment Weekly published an article with screenshots and an August 1 release date.
https://ew.com/batman-caped-crusader-exclusive-first-look-asian-american-harley-quinn-8645683
I’m gonna open a sandbox for this show.
Edited by BigBadShadow25 on May 9th 2024 at 11:19:23 AM
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Really digging the looks of this. I love the Golden Age pulp vibe they seem to be going for, Revisiting the Roots but also trying to do something weird and new, which kinda makes it evocative of Gods And Monsters, which I really liked. Pulp/gothic/Lovecraftian horror and Batman go together like bread and butter.
Edited by immortaleditor on May 9th 2024 at 8:25:21 AM
I assume they aren't capturing Harley for a few outings if she's to keep her day job.
Batman will apparently also be so unadjusted and 'removed' that no one, not even the audience, know what he's really about.
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Hollywood Reporter has character descriptions:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/matt-reeves-batman-tv-series-first-look-1235894658/
Sounds interesting how they’re handling Harley.
Edited by BigBadShadow25 on May 9th 2024 at 12:23:02 PM
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I like that idea. Portraying him as this distant, eerie wraith whose motives and personality aren't entirely clear. A very cool way of depicting Batman and really selling the Terror Hero aspect. In fact, I almost wish they went even further with it and leaned even further into the pulp horror vibe by portraying him in a way that makes you wonder if he's even human or some kind of Humanoid Abomination.
Also depicting Clayface as an Expy of Rondo Hatton is an interesting twist on the whole "movie actor turned monster" aspect.
Edited by immortaleditor on May 9th 2024 at 9:38:41 AM
Making this a Period Piece set in the 1940s is a really good move. I like how everything looks, though I'm waiting for a trailer to gather my full thoughts.
So… like a Columbo-esque thing where even though he’s the main character, most of the plots aren’t about him specifically and he stays something of a mystery?
That sounds like it could really work with Batman.
I’ve gotten a bit disillusioned with Timm over the years, but I’m cautiously optimistic about this one.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
The show being a period piece reminds of something the critic Unshaved Mouse said in his review of the Killing Joke animated movie:
What I mean is, take Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock Holmes started out as contemporary fiction, but most adaptations (most, not all) keep him in his original Victorian London setting because so much of what makes Holmes Holmes is wrapped up with the era. Fogbound streets, gaslight, bobbies on the beat, street tarts asking if you fancy it ducky and Queen Victoria (Gawd bless yer ma’am). Similarly, so much of Batman’s lore and iconography and story-telling tropes are rooted in the early twentieth century. The fact that he has a butler, the fact that organised crime in Gotham is run by families like the Falcones and the Maronis despite the Mafia being a spent force in American crime since the late nineties, Arkham Asylum and of course bank heists. How many Batman stories involve a bank heist and yet they don’t really happen any more. Oh sure, people still walk into a bank with a gun and get the teller to hand over a few hundred dollars from the till. But big, organised, “blow up the safe and drive off with half the GDP of a small nation” bank jobs? Nah. Too risky. Too much CCTV and American cops are now around as well armed as the frickin’ Taliban. So my question is, at some point are we just going to stop trying to update Batman like we did with Sherlock Holmes? When American society has changed so much that it becomes impossible to reconcile with Batman’s world, will we just leave him in the past? Batman the Animated Series had this wonderfully timeless quality where it was never quite clear what era it was taking place in.
As they observe there, Batman has long and often (pretty much since just before Crisis and onwards, especially once the Burton movies came around) had kind of a Retro Universe vibe where it seems to exist more in a kind of Two-Fisted Tales fantasy world than anything in the modern day real life. Some versions have tried to get away from that, but are either outliers (like the Nolan films) or instead plant the character into a genre that carries a lot of the same DNA as Batman's Golden Age mystery/horror/pulp roots (like Dark Knight Returns and Beyond both being set in cyberpunk futures).
Many entries in the franchise have been set in an Ambiguous Time Period full of bits and pieces of various eras to a borderline Schizo Tech degree, but the 30s/40s/50s are definitely one of the biggest pools pulled from given Batman's origins there. Gotham looks and feels like the set of an old film noir movie expanded into a Blade Runner-like Mega City. The make-up of the rogues gallery is very familiar to the kind of criminals and villains you commonly saw in either the news (Italian mobsters, eccentric robbers with gimmicks, etc.) or media (mad scientists, gothic monsters, film serial villains out to take over the world, etc.) of the period. The emphasis on hard-boiled mysteries and Gotham's existence in a perpetual recession similar to the Great Depression as it struck New York. The eerie atmosphere of horror and dread mixed with romanticism and high-flying adventure. It's all very firmly rooted in the comic and literary genres emerging in the time.
I guess what I'm saying is that, yeah, that person is right and Batman is often bordering on being a Period Piece in the same way Sherlock Holmes is. There's a reason a lot of Elseworlds are period pieces and Caped Crusader looks to be yet another instance of it.
Edited by immortaleditor on May 9th 2024 at 12:16:42 PM
Batman's characterization (Batman is the true personality, Bruce is the disguise) in this seems like the same old we've gotten before, so I hope they present it in a fresh light. Catwoman and Clayface could go either way. Harley sounds REALLY interesting, though. I'm actually interested in her portrayal. I wonder if Joker will eventually appear or she'll be essentially taking his place.
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It might be that Harley creates the Joker instead and she pushes a patient too far, or one of them is infatuated with her and sees Batman as his rival.
Re: Unshaved Mouse. I don't get why having a butler would be outdated. Wealthy people will always need domestic help.
Edited by TomWithoutJerry on May 9th 2024 at 3:58:25 AM
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So interesting description of Harley here, she's Asian in this setting and will be switching up her thing.
“I co-created the character, so I have a lot of love and affection for her, but I thought there might be something interesting about bringing her on the show, just not as Joker’s girlfriend,” Timm says. “So how do we do that? A big part was just doing a basic flip. The original Dr. Quinzel was a little bit more serious, and then when she became Harley, she got really goofy and weird. So we thought, what if we reverse that? When she's Dr. Quinzel, she's a little bit more whimsical and fun, and then when she's Harley Quinn, she's scary.”
Edited by slimcoder on May 9th 2024 at 4:16:31 AM
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Sounds kind reminds me of Gods & Monsters Harley.
Or, better yet, that description really reminds me of Spinel.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Might be Timm's attempt at a more sympathetic, human take on Gods And Monsters Harley (considering that version was pretty much nothing more than a Red Shirt who would die to show what GAM Batman was like plus a Take That, Scrappy! at the modern revisionist "girl power" take on Harley and especially the godawful New 52 designs she had).
I assume the show will be like The Batman. Batman goes solo in his first years and then later he adopts Robin.