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Ban-Evader Reversion Thread

Please read the outline below before proceeding any further.
Important Note: This thread is devoted to reverting the edits of Tropers who have repeatedly chosen to evade their bans and suspensions, since serial ban-evasion is an act which is by its very nature a display of untrustworthiness, the fact that some ban-evaders outright engage in vandalism or add false information notwithstanding.
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    Overview 
As mentioned here, due to the prolific nature of serial ban-evaders, there needs to be a team effort devoted to reverting any and all edits made by ban-evaders, especially serial ban-evaders, and investigating otherwise suspicious edits.
    Sandboxes 
In order to accomplish this admittedly Herculean task, sandboxes for Ban-Evader Reversion have been created for the purpose of identifying problematic pages which are edited primarily by ban-evaders.

Depending on how much of the pages can be salvaged, they will either be noted in the B.E.R.T. Watch-List, locked if necessary, or cut if unsalvageable.

Any Frequently Vandalized Pages will also be monitored for suspicious activity.

If you notice a page is primarily edited by a certain ban-evader and/or their socks, please bring your findings to this thread so that cleanup can commence.

Potentially valid examples added by ban evaders should be transferred to Ban-Evader Example Rewrites so they can be salvaged. Make sure to mention transferring examples to the sandbox in your edit reason so others who may be willing to rewrite are aware.

    Resolved Items 

Handling General Ban-Evader Edits:

To paraphrase what is stated here and here:
  1. Bad faith is not necessarily assumed with the contributions of first-time ban-evaders, and their contributions can simply be rephrased assuming they're accurate.
  2. Any serial (more than once) ban-evader cannot be taken at their word, so their contributions are subject to harsher scrutiny. Any verifiable examples can be reworded (especially if there are grammatical or formatting issues), but unverifiable, false, or otherwise prohibited edits are removed.
  3. Ban-evaders who deliberately contribute inaccurate or false information are able to have their contributions deleted with little hesitation.
  4. Rewording or reverting can be as simple as expanding on a ban-evader's existing edits, especially if it means adding sufficient context or trimming word cruft.

The subsequent portions of this section outline further how to handle different kinds of edits and contributions.

The following types of edits can be left alone to preserve wiki quality:

  • Grammatical corrections.
  • Spelling corrections.
  • Formatting updates and corrections.note 
  • Crosswicked examples from other tropers.
  • Indexing (if accurate).note 
  • Accurately written potholes.note 
  • Links to the correct Work/Recap/Instalment/Franchise page, including red-linked works.note 
  • Archive edits. (See here.)
  • Launched Tropes.note 

The following edits might need to be reworded in order to stay on the wiki, and depending on the examples, may need to be re-evaluated/verified in this thread or in the proper cleanup threads.

The following edits should remain hidden until they can be verified, and deleted if proven inaccurate:

  • Zero Context Examples.note 

The following items must be sent to the cut-list/otherwise removed on principle (and if applicable, re-created by a trustworthy editor from scratch using a Sandbox):

  • Pages created by ban-evaders using their socks.note 
  • Videos uploaded by ban evaders using their socks.note 
    Forum Decorum 
  • Please refrain from "popcorn posting". This means refraining making comments such as "man, they don't know when to quit", or otherwise unproductive posts.
  • Please maintain an atmosphere of civility.
  • Please do not withhold information about potential sock-puppetry or other ban-evasion related misconduct, as withholding such information makes one an accessory to ban-evasion.
  • When reverting edits, please make notes in the sandboxes, and transfer any potentially valid edits to the appropriate sandbox.
  • When reverting ban-evader edits, please use an appropriate (and civil) edit reason.
  • Should you suspect a ban-evader has shown up in this thread, please do not make open accusations, trash-talk them, or engage in other uncivil behaviour. Quietly holler the post and wait for mod input; if necessary (especially if suspicious edits or issues unrelated to the forum are involved), make a query at "Ask The Tropers".
  • Please respect the thread consensus once it has been established. If an item is resolved, it is usually resolved for a reason.
  • If you have any suggestions for new policies, or wish to contest an old one, do it in the General Policy Discussion, not here.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 13th 2024 at 10:23:58 AM

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#551: Oct 4th 2022 at 7:31:33 PM

Caught yet another Sayaka sock (supermagnificentextreme). Every time a new account edits the FETCH! with Ruff Ruffman page, I check for socks. I guess they switched up their name pattern. Anyways, here's their edit history I'll revert what I can.

Macron's notes
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#552: Oct 7th 2022 at 9:16:42 AM

As per this ATT thread, Supernatural Murder Hobo is yet another High Crate sock. Their edit history can be found here.

Edited by gjjones on Oct 7th 2022 at 12:17:10 PM

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
huskiermango Since: Aug, 2022
#553: Oct 7th 2022 at 9:51:17 AM
Thumped: This post has been thumped with the mod stick. This means knock it off.
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#554: Oct 7th 2022 at 9:54:39 AM

I thought edits by a serial ban evader should be reverted on principle.

Edited by gjjones on Oct 7th 2022 at 12:56:36 PM

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#555: Oct 7th 2022 at 9:55:35 AM

[up][up] Not to come off as paranoid, but your account is quite new. Like, 2 months old. And this is your first forum post. And you're acting like someone who's been here a while.

I hate to be that guy, but could we have an IP check, just to be absolutely safe?

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Oct 7th 2022 at 12:56:00 PM

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#556: Oct 7th 2022 at 9:58:37 AM

Everything a ban-evader does has to be undone, then to be considered and discussed to be added with a different wording if possible, at least from what I remember.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#557: Oct 7th 2022 at 10:01:00 AM

The OP has a lot of edits from ban evaders that be left alone. Edits that follow wiki policy can be kept.

Under Resolved Items in the OP (not sure why it's under this folder)

The following types of edits can be left alone to preserve wiki quality:

  • Grammatical corrections.
  • Spelling corrections.
  • Formatting updates and corrections.note 
  • Crosswicked examples from other tropers.
  • Indexing (if accurate).note 
  • Accurately written potholes.note 
  • Links to the correct Work/Recap/Instalment/Franchise page, including red-linked works.note 
  • Archive edits. (See here.)

Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 12th 2022 at 10:23:02 AM

Macron's notes
GastonRabbit MOD Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#558: Oct 7th 2022 at 10:13:51 AM

huskiermango turned out to be another HighCrate sock. Revert away.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 7th 2022 at 12:14:38 PM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#559: Oct 7th 2022 at 10:30:14 AM

Macron: I wasn't sure what to otherwise name that folder, given that they are questions that I consider resolved. If you have better ideas, let me know.

Rawr.
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#560: Oct 9th 2022 at 2:43:21 PM

I would also like to add the following to the header under "Forum Decorum":

  • Should you suspect a ban-evader has shown up in this thread, do not make open accusations, trash-talk them, or engage in other uncivil behaviour. Quietly holler the post and wait for mod input.

I know that this one turned out to be a sock, but publicly accusing someone of being a sock and having it turn out that they are not is embarassing to both the accuser and accusee.

Rawr.
Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#561: Oct 9th 2022 at 2:45:21 PM

Yeah that's good. That should be covered by Rule 0, but if people can't remember that on their own a reminder is fine

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#562: Oct 9th 2022 at 2:55:35 PM

Oh whoops. I fucked that one up. Sorry about that—I will holler in the future.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#563: Oct 9th 2022 at 3:00:19 PM

Look, I know you meant well, Simpleton, and your concerns were valid. As the OP here, however, I just want these sorts of sock-puppet shenanigans to be dealt with as quickly and quietly as possible.

Rawr.
Irene Siiiiiiiiiiiip from Digital World Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
Siiiiiiiiiiiip
#564: Oct 9th 2022 at 3:00:32 PM

I really like that idea too. Public call-outs aren't useful in many situations, including this one, after all.

...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#565: Oct 9th 2022 at 3:01:24 PM

Oh no I get that Sky. I was just apologizing because I do realize that I should have hollered.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#566: Oct 9th 2022 at 3:30:42 PM

By the way, both sock histories have been linked to in Ban-Evader Reversion.

Rawr.
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#567: Oct 12th 2022 at 8:04:19 AM

(This is late but since I was asked to make this official...) Yes, in the future, please report ban evaders via hollers or Ask The Tropers.

Macron's notes
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#568: Oct 12th 2022 at 8:09:14 AM

[up] Updated the entry accordingly:

  • Should you suspect a ban-evader has shown up in this thread, please do not make open accusations, trash-talk them, or engage in other uncivil behaviour. Quietly holler the post and wait for mod input; if necessary (especially if suspicious edits or issues unrelated to the forum are involved), make a query at "Ask The Tropers".

Rawr.
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#569: Oct 17th 2022 at 11:17:27 PM

I've been wondering, if a ban evader deletes something and it wasn't for a valid edit reason, are we allowed to bring it back on principle?

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#571: Oct 17th 2022 at 11:56:42 PM

[up]Eh, I just wanted to be 100% sure. Thanks regardless.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#573: Oct 19th 2022 at 11:20:41 AM

Linked to the history in the sandbox. Any reversions should be noted.

Rawr.
Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#574: Oct 19th 2022 at 12:27:32 PM

Their pre-upcoming-work sock laundry patterns don't seem predictable. Guess we're going to have to wait for them to emerge at upcoming works pages as usual.

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#575: Oct 19th 2022 at 12:38:56 PM

Since the most recent two HC socks did edit Game of Thrones related media, I think it may be worth noting that in the watchlist, in addition to that lady with a hate-on for Queen Dany.

Edit: Changes in bold.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 19th 2022 at 5:00:03 AM

Rawr.

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