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RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#951: Jan 27th 2023 at 4:53:37 AM

[up](x3) That doesn't sound intentional to me (which I believe is part of Does This Remind You of Anything?) so I believe it's Accidental Innuendo instead. EDIT: So I feel it can be salvaged as the latter.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jan 27th 2023 at 5:08:13 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#952: Jan 27th 2023 at 4:54:33 AM

Edit: nevermind.

Edited by Redmess on Jan 27th 2023 at 1:56:36 PM

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saybyebus Friend of Narnia from Bag End Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#953: Feb 7th 2023 at 4:30:38 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] As it's been a few days since that was posted, I think I'll go through the G3 YMMV page myself. I will admit that I'm kind of a G3 fanboy and I'm not super fond of brony subculture, but I'll be as impartial as I can.

    Folder to save space 
  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Isn't there like this "Reviewers are Not God" rule or something that these violate? In any case, they read less like legit fan theories and more like copypasting Mr. Enter's opinions. Also, he's been very open about his dislike of G3, so these are pretty bad-faith. Also ew on the "pink supremacist" thing. She just likes pink things ffs.
  • Awesome Music can stay. G3's soundtrack is pretty dope.
  • For Broken Base, the first bullet point is weird and rambly. I think we could cut it down to something like "Some dislike this gen out of Sweetness Aversion, while others enjoy it for that same lightheartedness." Second bullet point is OK in my opinion.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse seems okay except for the random comment about bronies liking Minty. I don't think that is really relevant here.
  • Fandom Rivalry: Good lord this one is bad. Let's change it to something like "For a time, there was quite the tension between G3 and G4 fans. See Broken Base."
  • Fan Nickname: I have seen a grand total of 0 people use this nickname for her. Also, this is yet another entry written through the lens of bronies/FIM.
  • Fanon, Fan-Preferred Couple, Girl-Show Ghetto, and Heartwarming in Hindsight all seem OK.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight looks all right except for the first bullet point. It's kind of reaching. There are several pink ponies with rainbow hair across My Little Pony's lifespan.
  • Just Here for Godzilla seems okay. I have seem people admit that Minty is the highlight of G3 for them. Can't speak for the Ed, Edd, and Eddy one though.
  • Les Yay looks like a keeper, too.
  • Memetic Mutation fits, as much as I dislike it. Still feels like it was put there by brony with a "G3 bad, G4 good" agenda.
  • Moe and Narm Charm can stay.
  • Never Live It Down: They can stay as entries, except for the part about Newborn Cuties being G3's last hurrah. That's...just not true? NC was the interim between Core 7 and 3.5. The actual "last hurrah" of G3 was Twinkle Wish Adventure.
  • Everything from Rescued from the Scrappy Heap to Sweetness Aversion can stay. They all seem legit.
  • Unintentional Uncanny Valley: Eugh that first bullet point is terrible. The Cuties' design isn't good, but it's not scary. You'd have to be a real weenie to "have trouble sleeping at night" after seeing them. Definitely needs to be rewritten to something like "Some find the Flash-animated Newborn Cuties to be this. It doesn't help that in some shorts, they lack mouth movements." The second bullet point can probably be cut. It's literally no different from a chibi artstyle. Heck, it's more similar to G4's art style than G3's.
  • TWAPGC: First bullet is fine. Second is rambly and goes off on a tangent about G4. Needs to be reworked.
  • WTHCA: This feels like misuse. Well known actors "stoop" to be in low-budget things all the time. Mark Hamill has starred in a no budget thing from 2004 that literally looks like a Runescape cutscene.

Those are my two cents. If no-one has any objections, I think I'll go ahead and make the edits.

Edited by saybyebus on Feb 7th 2023 at 6:32:02 AM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#954: Feb 7th 2023 at 4:33:12 PM

Fandom Rivalry: Good lord this one is bad. Let's change it to something like "For a time, there was quite the tension between G3 and G4 fans. See Broken Base."

Er, you can't. That's a textbook ZCE; you don't direct people to other examples.

Never Live It Down is misuse for both; it's about a character action fans take out of proportion.

Your idea for Unintentional Uncanny Valley implies that the reaction doesn't actually count. Now, I personally find the designs off putting, but they're not Uncanny Valley, and the fix you've suggested doesn't help either (it's a misused ZCE again).

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 7th 2023 at 7:36:29 AM

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saybyebus Friend of Narnia from Bag End Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#955: Feb 7th 2023 at 4:36:11 PM

[up] Ah, didn't know that. I figured it would be redundant otherwise. Thanks.

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#956: Feb 7th 2023 at 4:36:49 PM

Just so you know, I realized I had other comments to make and edited my post.

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saybyebus Friend of Narnia from Bag End Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Friend of Narnia
#957: Feb 7th 2023 at 4:45:06 PM

Noted. [tup] I'll keep them in mind if/when I do editing.

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#958: Feb 7th 2023 at 4:48:32 PM

No problem. You other points seem good to me, though

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#959: Feb 20th 2023 at 7:36:51 AM

The last folder on Analysis.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic basically amounts to "fanfics exist". Should I remove it?

PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#960: Feb 20th 2023 at 1:01:32 PM

I'm wondering, could that Surprisingly Improved Sequel entry on YMMV.My Little Pony Equestria Girls Holidays Unwrapped that was deleted from the page fit Improved Second Attempt better, minus the bashing? If that link to a blogpost in the old entry was anything to go by, then many people liked that we got a proper Christmas special in this movie unlike the 2014 comic.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Feb 20th 2023 at 1:06:33 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#961: Feb 23rd 2023 at 4:32:13 PM

From A Canterlot Wedding part 1:

Harsher in Hindsight:

  • The need for increased security at the wedding seems a more eerie in light of the issues with insufficient security at the London 2012 Olympics, and even more so after the Boston Marathon bombings in 2013.

Should we keep this? It doesn't seem all that relevant to the episode. I earlier removed a similar example from Hurricane Fluttershy about a tornado (since those are natural disasters that happen all the time), but perhaps people feel different about this one.

Personally I think it should only count if it was, say, increased security at a real life royal wedding because of a terrorism threat. The Olympics seem a step too far removed to me.

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harryhenry It's either real or it's a dream Since: Jan, 2012
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#962: Feb 23rd 2023 at 6:34:56 PM

[up] Insufficient security at events is always a concern, especially after 9/11. It doesn't feel meaningful enough, especially since such issues tend to be forgotten unless something really bad happens as a result.

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#963: Feb 27th 2023 at 11:05:50 PM

[up](x4) Yeah, I don't think analysis pages are supposed to do things like that anyways. So, I agree with cutting it.

[up][up]It's misuse of Harsher in Hindsight since they're not related enough.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Mar 2nd 2023 at 11:06:03 AM

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#964: Feb 28th 2023 at 10:32:18 AM

I noticed that UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.Pokemon is franchise wide containing the games, anime, and manga despite them being separate continuities. So should UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic, which currently just the show, include from Equestria Girls and The Movie which are officially canon and the comics which are semi-canon?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#965: Feb 28th 2023 at 12:02:12 PM

That sounds fair, though calling it G4 instead of My Little Pony may make more sense then.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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Fresh2000 Since: Mar, 2017
#967: Mar 1st 2023 at 7:43:17 AM

So any ideas what to add to the character page of Discord on the g5 2022 comic after the last issue of the comic arc?

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#968: Mar 1st 2023 at 1:42:38 PM

[up]If nothing immediately comes to mind why the rush to add anything? And on that is it worth giving Twilight and/or Fluttershy separate folders now that they've had important and individual character roles out of the Guardians of Harmony?

From Fanwork-Only Fans:

  • Thanks to a vast amount of fan-produced media made during the heyday of its fandom, My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic has fans that have either never seen the series, or abandoned it for fan-made material after the show went in a direction they disliked.

Awhile back, cleanup said those who were fans of the work but stopped being don't count as FOF means they never cared for the actual work. Before cleaning this up some questions:

  • Am I right in assuming this applies to prior MLP Gens as well?
  • Is it accurate to say a sizable number of G4 fans brought in by the fanworks never bothered with/got into the official works proper?
  • Does this apply to G5 as well? (On one hand most interest seems to be in the characters and speculation on the setting while the post ANG work have met with apethy, on the other there have yet to be such notable G5 fanworks.)
  • Would FOF apply to the Recursive Fanfiction, if they don't care for the original fic beyond using it as a basis? Or is that a question for general cleanup?

Fresh2000 Since: Mar, 2017
#969: Mar 2nd 2023 at 2:02:00 AM

I would say that at least the heartwarming and tearjerker sections should be updated. I can see a case to be made for Fluttershy and Twilight, although it could just be added information to the Guardians of Harmony page. Or small subsections for Twilight and Fluttershy added within the Guardians of Harmony page. I thought about the discord page and your right, although instead of adding new tropes. We could just add more info to certain tropes slightly through spoiling it. In the final issue he was changed from his ideals by seeing the final message from Fluttershy breaking down and he becomes friends with the mane five in g5. The Heel-Face Turn tag isn't worthy to be added because I feel like he was never truly evil again in the first place. I would just advise to add a spoiler to the anti-villain part maybe, saying something along the lines of: He even becomes friends with the mane five after seeing Fluttershy's message.

Unicorndance Logic Girl from Thames, N.Z. Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#970: Mar 2nd 2023 at 2:34:49 PM

Two regarding "Leap of Faith".

FridgeHorror.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Season 4:

  • The way Applejack saved Granny Smith in the end, sending the rope down while she stayed on the platform up top? That's exactly what happened The Night Gwen Stacy Died.
  • Doctor Whooves is the Doctor, according to Slice of Life. So the scorecards he has to hold up must be bringing back some very bad memories. Both of those involve other works. Also, I don't think Doctor Whooves is the Doctor; it was just a Shout-Out.

And Funny.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Season 4:

  • Likely a coincidence, but in Polish, "zrobić kogoś w konia" (lit. "to make a horse out of someone") is an expression meaning "to trick" or "to deceive". And Flim and Flam are attempting bunco here... Seems like a stretch.

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RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#971: Mar 2nd 2023 at 2:38:45 PM

[up]The Funny entry might work better as an Accidental Pun. However, the Fridge Horror ones are misuse imo because FH doesn’t involve a separate work. EDIT: I also agree that the second example is a Shout-Out instead.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Mar 2nd 2023 at 2:39:24 AM

NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#972: Mar 10th 2023 at 1:22:11 AM

I just realised that Analysis.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic is outdated, since it says that Fighting is Magic is currently in production. How should we rewrite it?

Klavice I Need a Freaking Drink from A bar at the edge of time (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#973: Mar 10th 2023 at 3:23:29 AM

Fighting is Magic got rebranded as Them's Fightin Herds and since that's essentially got designs by Faust herself why don't we make this the TFH cleanup too, assuming it wasn't already?

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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Klavice I Need a Freaking Drink from A bar at the edge of time (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#975: Mar 11th 2023 at 11:04:57 PM

I'm relatively new to TFH so I couldn't say. Maybe someone who's more familiar with it could chime in.

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.

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