Informed Species

I agree, the My Little Pony characters are horse-like enough to recognize what kind of animals they are without knowing the show. And "horse-like creature with black and white stripes" is recognizable as a zebra, so Zecora is also easy to identify.

Question: some time ago, I added this to the Characters.Hollow Knight NP Cs in the Last Stag's folder:

The problem is, as I can see by this thread, it appears we determine do examples fall under Informed Species by how a layman would see them as. And I believe that a layman would not differentiate between stag beetles and rhinoceros beetles, instead lumping them into the same category: a beetle.

However, stag beetles and rhino beetles still have an important distinction: stag beetles◊ have big dual pincers, while rhino beetles have a single horn on the top of their heads. And the Last Stag looks more like the latter: see for yourself◊.

So, here's the question: should this tidbit I added be removed since laymen don't differentiate between beetles, or be kept since stag beetles and rhino beetles are still distinct enough to be different? And if the answer is to cut, do you think it can be salvaged for Artistic License – Biology or Non-Indicative Name instead?

Edited by I--Vanya--I on Mar 16th 2021 at 4:00:25 PM

Salvage to Non-Indicative Name.

Edited by Delibirda on Mar 17th 2021 at 10:45:52 AM

Done. Thanks.

Oswald claims that the titular character doesn't look much like an octopus, but when I was little I could still tell that he is one. When you see an animal with eight tentacles, it's not hard to think "octopus". At worst, he looks like a spider.

Edited by Dghcrh on Mar 17th 2021 at 11:45:02 AM

He looks enough like an octopus. I used to watch a lot of Nick Jr. programming when I had young family members to babysit and I don't recall any of the kiddies having trouble identifying his species.

I've removed this from the Informed Species page:

• The Cat from Red Dwarf looks like a human, with absolutely no visual clues as to his real species apart from a pair of fangs. However, the Cat is actually stated to be a creature evolved from the spectacularly inbred descendants of Lister's pet cat.

The entry itself admits that Cat isn't a cat at all. He's just a human-like being who evolved from cats instead of monkeys.

This is the third time thenabster126 readded Charmy Bee to InformedSpecies.Video Games and the fourth time he added it overall. That's edit-warring all around.

Edited by Dghcrh on Apr 24th 2021 at 8:44:00 PM

Report it to a mod.

Glanced at wicks and found this on SpongeBobSquarePants.Tropes D To I:

• Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy don’t really look human. In fact, Barnacle Boy resembles Squidward.

Has anybody ever mistaken them for anything but humans? Cuz they obviously look like very caricatured humans to me◊, and it's even more obvious in their younger years◊.

They've always been humans. They look more human than Spongebob resembles an actual Sea Sponge, and more than Squidward resembles an actual Squid.

Pretty sure we agreed cut them on InformedSpecies.Western Animation, so we can cut them there too.

Squidward is an octopus.

Edited by Delibirda on Apr 26th 2021 at 9:14:34 PM

And he looks nothing like that either.

Well, yeah, your main point still stands.

Bump.

Why? Is there a particular post you need checked?

Eh, no. Anyway...

This is from Oggy and the Cockroaches:

Informed Species: They don't look much like real cockroaches, since they only have four limbs, unrealistic colors and long, pointed noses.

Does this one count?

Edited by Delibirda on May 19th 2021 at 9:06:54 PM

Looking at the images on the character's page and they look enough like cockroaches for me to not be confused.

I am not sure though.

They're Funny Animals that look as much like cockroaches as Oggy looks like a cat. Not confusing enough to make Informed Species.

'K then. I'll cut if no further objections.

I find it odd that the main page for Informed Species doesn't mention the titular character of H.R. Pufnstuf

From Series.HR Pufnstuf:

• Pufnstuf is ostensibly a dragon, but looks more like a prototype McDonald's mascot.

Should H.R. Pufnstuf be added to Informed Species (under Puppets)?

Edited by Nen_desharu on May 19th 2021 at 10:18:24 AM

That's low on context. How are we to understand why "a prototype McDonald's mascot" can't also resemble a dragon?

Here's some context from The Other Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._Pufnstuf

Here's an image of the titular character◊ (he's the yellow character with a large mouth in the centre)

The bottom half looks close enough to a dragon, but the head is obviously not dragon-like.

Edit: Image is now a regular link

Edited by Nen_desharu on May 19th 2021 at 11:14:45 AM