Edit: I've created the index. So far I've added only those pages that have mandatory waiting periods already in effect.
It's been brought up in a few places recently (most notably in this ATT thread
) that we have a few tropes / Audience Reactions / etc. that have mandatory waiting periods before being added. The suggestion has been made— which I tend to agree with— that some sort of index to keep track of which tropes have waiting periods and what those periods are would be helpful.
Besides what's already on the index, we've got:
- Specific Mandatory Waiting Period Suggested:
- Critical Dissonance - Brought up here as being too early to call on release weekend. Fighteer suggests a one-month mandatory waiting period on all similar "reception tropes."
- Overshadowed by Controversy - a 6-month mandatory waiting period has been suggested but not agreed upon yet
- The Scrappy - Due to its close association with Base-Breaking Character and its status as a complaining magnet, has been suggested for a 6-month waiting period in this thread.
- Critical Dissonance - Brought up here
- No specific waiting period has been suggested, but adding it too early has caused problems:
- Eight Deadly Words - It was suggested here that the below should apply to this as well
- So Bad, It's Good - Fighteer noted here that the weekend of release was too early to apply tropes like these
- So Okay, It's Average - see above
- Eight Deadly Words - It was suggested here
Template tag for work pages:
%% Per Administrivia/NoRecentExamplesPlease, do not add [Trope] until [X] months/days/weeks after the episode's release (Month Date, Year).
Use this date calculator to add the amount of months/days/weeks in accordance to No Recent Examples, Please!.
- As mentioned here, the consensus is that NREP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.
Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 23rd 2024 at 9:41:59 AM
I'd prefer a citation requirement for memes (e.g. linking to multiple popular/higher-traffic posts portraying the meme over a sustained period of time) over a hard cutoff. A meme doesn't have to last for a long time, just needs to be proven to have spread.
Edited by Albert3105 on Oct 18th 2022 at 4:34:38 AM
Angry babby
I mean, I guess we could use Know Your Meme and such, but that feels like overkill. You can usually tell if a meme has spread by just googling the meme's name in five seconds.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Also remember that we also allow fandom memes that haven't spread across the internet...
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
My point is that I'm not in favour of having years-long waiting periods for Memetic Mutation.
Edited by Albert3105 on Oct 18th 2022 at 6:35:15 AM
Angry babby
TBH me neither. I'd rather we ban political examples since they're barely troping fiction anyway, but I feel like the ship has sailed on that.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
IIRC, it's only been KRLP'd once, so NRLEPing it isn't completely off the table, but it's not likely to happen. Regardless, that's an issue for the other thread.
Edited by badtothebaritone on Oct 18th 2022 at 10:12:03 AM
Would it be a good idea for me to go request a lock for Memes.US Politics Biden Era while we figure out what to do with this?
She / Her
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Yeah, I agree that's a good idea.
Just wondering, if all options are closed, then how come the crowner isn't locked yet? (For the record, I recall voting on all of them before they were closed.)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Because more options can still be added?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
it's not full yet and there's no real reason to swap out before it's necessary, is there? any further votes on the existing items will just be disregarded.
Edited by ChloeJessica on Oct 19th 2022 at 10:26:44 AM
She / Her
It just seems that it's been like this for a while, which is why I was asking.
EDIT: Adding another arrow.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Oct 19th 2022 at 10:27:09 AM
(she/her)
This thread isn't as active as the NRLEP one so the crowner doesn't fill up as much (there's also less tropes that need NREP as opposed to NRLEP). It feels weird to swap a mass crowner with less than 10-15 items in it so I just let it sit. There's some tropes that have been mentioned a few pages back but I don't know if they have been thoroughly discussed and no one has made a list et (might make one myself when I feel like it).
Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 20th 2022 at 8:19:17 AM
Macron's notes
Biden subpage has been locked.
She / Her
K.
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Edited by RandomTroper123 on Oct 20th 2022 at 12:09:47 PM
I think Chuck Cunningham Syndrome needs a waiting period in order to ensure that the disappearing character likely won't return.
EDIT: No examples until after the work ends, unless the creator confirms that the character is retired.
Edited by thecarolinabull01 on Nov 4th 2022 at 3:45:04 PM
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
What about for anime, manga, comic strips (both print and web), and other media?
Not familiar with those mediums. I guess comic strips should be five years as well since they tend to be decades-long like comic books (the comic books was meant to include comic strips as well, let me edit that). Anime I guess would be the same as animated/live-action TV series.
Any suggestions?
Edited by thecarolinabull01 on Oct 22nd 2022 at 7:43:13 AM
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Wouldn't it be easier to just wait for the work to end?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
She / Her
I feel that might depend on the work.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Oct 22nd 2022 at 4:53:14 AM
I think that's a bit overkill.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I don't think so. If a character comes back like, 5 seasons into a work, it's not Chuck Cunningham Syndrome anymore. You can't know for 100% certain that they're gone unless they never come back, and that's only provable after the work ends.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Stillborn Franchise only has a five year waiting period even though we are regularly having decades-long Sequel Gaps.
If the character comes back, just move them to The Bus Came Back.
Edited by thecarolinabull01 on Oct 22nd 2022 at 7:56:29 AM
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
That only applies if they were Put on a Bus.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Well then The Bus Came Back is being misused like crazy, but that's another issue.
Either way, there should be an exception if the creator confirms that the character is retired. (Added to my original post).
Edited by thecarolinabull01 on Oct 22nd 2022 at 8:30:13 AM
Given how quickly memes come and go, I'm thinking of instead of eight years, I'm thinking four years to cover one American presidential term.
Kirby is awesome.