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This is a thread for checking up on pages for works that have not been released yet, to make sure that they are not straying into rampant speculation or posting crazy behind the scenes spoilers. You can bring both individual examples or entire pages to attention here.

In extreme cases, any page can be locked, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

(As these pages often are hit with zero-context examples and shoehorning as well, all four - speculation, spoilers, ZCEs, and shoehorning may get addressed simultaneously.)

The policy governing this effort is Creating a Work Page For an Upcoming Work.

Edited by nombretomado on Jun 10th 2019 at 6:08:27 AM

Nov 17th 2020 at 7:56:42 PM

As written, those are shoehorns, plain and simple. I'd cut them.

Edited by Albert3105 on Nov 17th 2020 at 10:57:38 AM

wingedcatgirl The boy with the power of Darkness from Tower of Babel
The boy with the power of Darkness
Nov 23rd 2020 at 8:13:32 AM

FYI, a trailer just dropped for a The World Ends with You sequel; NEO: The World Ends with You. There is hype. There will be edits.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Nov 23rd 2020 at 9:48:34 AM

Sylvi& | it/they/she | plural trans catgirl | discords link temporarily offline
bwburke94 Ultimate ??? from Ultimate Academy for Gifted Juveniles Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Ultimate ???
Nov 23rd 2020 at 10:12:39 AM

[up] And the page might be at the wrong capitalization, but that's a matter for another thread.

NOT up to date on RWBY Volume 8, and will not be until early April 2021 unless this sig changes.
ShinyCottonCandy Yo-yoshi! LEGO-shi! from LEGO Yoshi's Island Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Yo-yoshi! LEGO-shi!
Nov 23rd 2020 at 10:23:01 AM

Hey, ~Khaos Kyuubi, I appreciate the enthusiasm, but the pages you made for NEO The World Ends With You aren't up to the wiki's standards. For one, we need three tropes that can go on the main work page to make the page, and I'm not sure that much can be gotten out of the sole trailer released so far. And if the main page can't stay up, neither can any of the subpages.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Nov 23rd 2020 at 1:23:38 PM

wingedcatgirl The boy with the power of Darkness from Tower of Babel
The boy with the power of Darkness
Nov 23rd 2020 at 11:13:43 AM

[up][up]Nah, that's just a custom title issue; it's at the right wikiword.

Sylvi& | it/they/she | plural trans catgirl | discords link temporarily offline
Dec 6th 2020 at 1:03:21 PM

A trailer for Persona 5 Scramble has been posted with a released date announced. I apologize if I was supposed let everyone here know first before I added it to the Sandbox.

[down]Oh, sorry.

Edited by Mattman_the_Storyteller on Dec 6th 2020 at 6:14:32 AM

ShinyCottonCandy Yo-yoshi! LEGO-shi! from LEGO Yoshi's Island Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Yo-yoshi! LEGO-shi!
Dec 6th 2020 at 1:13:00 PM

[up]As that's an upload of a leak, we can't use that.

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York
Musician/Composer
Dec 12th 2020 at 10:15:09 PM

I would like to add something to Fate: The Winx Saga:

  • Playing with Fire: At the beginning of the teaser trailer, Bloom discovers that she has the power to control fire from her hands while walking through the forests.

Thoughts?

No matter who you are, always be yourself.
Dec 13th 2020 at 1:17:19 AM

Seems fine, as it does cite the trailer.

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York
Musician/Composer
Dec 16th 2020 at 6:03:36 PM

Should we create a Recap page for Fate: The Winx Saga, since we're getting close to the premiere?

No matter who you are, always be yourself.
jandn2014 Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot from somewhere in Connecticut Relationship Status: Hiding
Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot
Dec 16th 2020 at 6:07:10 PM

[up] I'd wait until it releases so there's actual info to add besides just the episode titles. We've still got a month to go, so there's no need to rush.

there's nobody here
rjd1922 Image Pickin' regular, image quality guru from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Image Pickin' regular, image quality guru
Dec 18th 2020 at 6:49:39 PM

Ship of Heroes has a lot of Speculative Troping, and is out of date, saying "The beta is planned for 2019". Here is the most recent release schedule.

Keet cleanup
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York
Musician/Composer
Dec 18th 2020 at 7:30:53 PM

Unfortunately, Fate: The Winx Saga was deleted again for "no promotional content". While the page was restored by someone else, I've added the teaser trailer back on to the page. Do you think this will work for now or should the page be cut listed again?

Edited by gjjones on Dec 18th 2020 at 11:21:20 AM

No matter who you are, always be yourself.
bwburke94 Ultimate ??? from Ultimate Academy for Gifted Juveniles Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Ultimate ???
Dec 18th 2020 at 9:03:23 PM

[up] Let's try a sandbox for now.

NOT up to date on RWBY Volume 8, and will not be until early April 2021 unless this sig changes.
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York
Musician/Composer
Dec 18th 2020 at 9:13:17 PM

[up]For reference, here's the recreated page: Series.Fate The Winx Saga.

Edited by gjjones on Dec 18th 2020 at 1:13:53 PM

No matter who you are, always be yourself.
Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:18:32 PM

There is an upcoming series about Diego Maradona, that will be aired by Amazon. Although there is no official trailer, there is a leaked one, and TV programs talk about it (see here). Is it fine to start troping, or should I wait for an official trailer?

Ultimate Secret Wars
ShinyCottonCandy Yo-yoshi! LEGO-shi! from LEGO Yoshi's Island Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Yo-yoshi! LEGO-shi!
Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:25:54 PM

[up]Wait for an official release of the trailer.

Dec 31st 2020 at 11:59:07 AM

I've been editing the sandbox page in a word processor to bring it up to date - adding release dates or windows to works that lack them, moving them to different categories if they fulfill the requirements with the newly-added date, and removing works that were released or canceled. I wanted to ask a few questions before I changed the actual page:

  1. What qualifies as a "significant amount of pre-release material"? Most upcoming pages have at least a single trailer or gameplay footage, which seems to be in line with what the Administrivia page says, but some (like The Green Knight) only have a teaser.
  2. If a work page has "2020" in the title and then gets delayed into 2021, should the page be moved accordingly? I know this may seem obvious, since many pages have been moved to that effect (like Black Widow (2020) becoming Black Widow (2021)), but there are a few works in the sandbox that are slated for release in 2021 yet keep the previous year in their names. For instance, Candyman (2020) will release on August 27, 2021, while Death on the Nile (2020) comes out on September 17th.

crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Dec 31st 2020 at 12:09:17 PM

Wrong years are due to people not updating the pages. It should be changed.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
bwburke94 Ultimate ??? from Ultimate Academy for Gifted Juveniles Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Ultimate ???
Dec 31st 2020 at 2:11:38 PM

[up][up] To avoid copy-and-paste errors, use Notepad or something similar.

NOT up to date on RWBY Volume 8, and will not be until early April 2021 unless this sig changes.
Dec 31st 2020 at 3:39:02 PM

Thank you both for your advice. I went ahead and moved Candyman (2021), Death on the Nile (2021), and Spiral (2021).

Silverblade2 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Jan 1st 2021 at 3:04:08 AM

Two things:

  • Might Bayonetta 3 be worth a cut? The game has been in development hell for years and we still have no gameplay footage, just a very short teaser released back in December 2017. We cut FF 16 for not having gameplay footage despite having a much longer cinematic trailer.

  • Superman And Lois has been launched but all we have at the moment is a teaser of Supes narrating his background.

Edited by Silverblade2 on Jan 1st 2021 at 12:10:51 PM

Jan 1st 2021 at 9:03:07 AM

Zap Bayo 3; no content has been revealed in years, so who knows what the final product will turn out.

Superman & Lois, based on its pilot release date being only two months from now, probably has its pilot finalized already (just not promoted). I'm on the fence on this one.

Edited by Albert3105 on Jan 1st 2021 at 12:05:44 PM

Jan 1st 2021 at 9:50:10 AM

For Superman and Lois, Spinoff and Spiritual Successor are both commented out, which seems like over-doing it. For the later it's a bit more complicated - is "a TV series focused on Superman and Lois Lane as a couple" a strong enough connection for it to be a valid example? For the former, I really don't see why this needs citation - it's been abundantly clear at every step of the way that this is indeed a spinoff. The trailer doesn't say out loud "this is a spinoff", because that would be weird. I suppose there's probably a press release or something that could be cited, but is that even allowed?

bwburke94 Ultimate ??? from Ultimate Academy for Gifted Juveniles Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Ultimate ???
Jan 1st 2021 at 11:52:06 AM

[up] Press releases are a bit iffy, but this is just the "is Final Fantasy VII Remake a remake" situation again.

(Admittedly FFVII Remake showed us why this type of policy is necessary...)

NOT up to date on RWBY Volume 8, and will not be until early April 2021 unless this sig changes.

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