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Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
#1: Jan 20th 2019 at 9:58:29 AM

The picture we have for the trope, Yellow Diamond, Peridot, Jasper, and Lapis Lazuli from Steven Universe, should really be removed.

1. It's inaccurate for half of them. Peridot and Lapis redeemed themselves long ago, and even when they were villains, they were a subordinate to Yellow Diamond, and a villain for one episode only respectively. Neither had the role of Big Bad.

2. The image portrays the villains (or at least Yellow Diamond, Jasper, and Peridot since Lapis is held by Jasper) as united. That's Big Bad Duumvirate not Big Bad Ensemble. So even if it was accurate to act as if Lapis and Peridot hold the Big Bad role, it's representing the wrong trope.

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#2: Jan 20th 2019 at 10:27:53 AM

If they're no longer examples, I'm fine with pulling.

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#3: Jan 20th 2019 at 11:18:24 AM

I don't think they were ever really examples for the reasons given in the OP. Lapis wasn't really a villain even at the time this came out.

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Awesomekid42 Since: Jul, 2012
#4: Jan 20th 2019 at 6:08:12 PM

Yeah. And by the time the intro came out, Jasper was still working for the diamonds, so the ensemble wasn't there yet.

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#5: Jan 21st 2019 at 8:27:36 AM

If it's not illustrative, then it should be pulled.

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#7: Jan 22nd 2019 at 4:46:27 AM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rogues.jpg

How about this famous cover of The Flash?

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#8: Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:28:37 AM

[up] That seems pretty good.

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#9: Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:17:25 AM

[tup] to 7 assuming they are not more of a Quirky Miniboss Squad.

Edited by iwantedtoaddsomething on Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:27:36 AM

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#11: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:15:13 AM

[tup]7.

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#12: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:17:32 AM

Are they all featured in the same story arc?

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#13: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:26:27 AM

7 if it's actually an example.

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Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#14: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:33:42 AM

Do we actually have a policy about the "Image is not an example" thing?

What's wrong with an image not being it even if it's perfectly illustrative?

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#15: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:42:37 AM

[up] It's not strictly forbidden (see This Image Is Not an Example for images that aren't actual examples of the tropes they illustrate), but the current image shows that Peridot, Jasper, and Yellow Diamond are united, which isn't this trope. 7 is less misleading.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#16: Jan 22nd 2019 at 7:43:27 AM

[up][up] Users familiar with the work but not the trope may get the wrong idea about the trope's meaning.

Edited by eroock on Jan 22nd 2019 at 5:44:08 PM

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#17: Jan 22nd 2019 at 8:29:29 AM

7 works. You can tell the villains have different enough themes that they don't seem united.

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#18: Jan 22nd 2019 at 9:45:13 AM

7 works in absence of anything better.

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#20: Jan 22nd 2019 at 9:58:33 AM

It's really difficult to come up with images here that don't overlap with Rogues Gallery.

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#21: Jan 22nd 2019 at 11:35:37 AM

[tup]7

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#23: Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:33:37 AM

I like the idea of a comic example, but want one that's a bit more expansive than a Rogues Gallery but seems less organized than a Legion of Doom. There's a recent DC Villains Omnibus whose cover has the right sort of feel.

Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#24: Jan 23rd 2019 at 5:40:30 AM

It helps that they are (well, most of them) are on the same level. Throwing in another vote for 7 unless it's not an example.

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