Are these Character Tropes?

From Characters.The Eternals Eternals:

• Apple of Discord: A timed key (one hour) to his prison becomes this in the Genesis War, as it was gifted to the mutants by Zuras as a gesture of goodwill after the events of A.X.E. Judgment Day to be used as they see fit. Unfortunately, the schism during this story arc had its usage as one of the primary points of contention between the Brotherhood and the Great Ring of Arakko, eventually prompting Storm to destroy it as while she could never bring herself to release Uranos, she could no longer trust the people around her to similarly resist.

(Spoiler tagging added as it's regarding recent comics)

He's a Boxed Crook and others are arguing about who gets control of him. But that feels like plot, not character - it's one-arc thing and the character himself has no part of it.

I'm tempted to cut.

By cutting probably meaning moving to the work page. The example isn't a characterization nor is even about the character, so that's enough of a reason to remove it.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 18th 2024 at 1:48:10 PM

Yep. Moved it.

Just a question (not sure if this is asked before): Is Foreshadowing, Gameplay and Story Integration and Gameplay and Story Segregation character tropes?

No, not usually

Foreshadowing can be a character trope if repeatedly done by the same character.

Gameplay and Story Segregation and Gameplay and Story Integration (they both have way too many wicks) can never be character tropes (and the fact that they're linked on so many Characters/ pages is pretty intimidating for a cleanup project...)

Edited by RallyBot2 on Mar 26th 2024 at 3:53:33 PM

Can you elaborate why.

GSS/GSI are, by their very nature, story tropes.

Just wanted to ask but can Character Development be applied to a character or no?

I mean it has "Character" in the name and is on Characterization Tropes

Thanks

Edited by Will426 on Mar 31st 2024 at 1:31:21 AM

Idk if this brought up but would Breaking Old Trends apply to characters?

Hey guys can tropes such as Damsel out of Distress, Break the Cutie, Honor Before Reason, It's Personal, Too Kinky to Torture, and Tears of Joy be applied to characters? Just wanted to double check.

Edited by Will426 on Apr 15th 2024 at 11:36:04 AM

Honor Before Reason, Too Kinky to Torture - descriptor applying to a character. Probably fitting as character tropes.

The others are things that happen, not characteristics of someone. Unless a character is given to joyful crying, Tears of Joy is not a character trope.

What if it only applies to a specific situation, or is an Invoked Trope? Like a character only acts Too Kinky to Torture on purpose one time to stop being tortured, and reacts normally to torture any other time it happens?

I take it moments like a Villainous Breakdown are also not character tropes?

Edited by immblueversion on Apr 16th 2024 at 11:38:46 AM

That wouldn't be a character trope for that instance, then.

It's about if the tropes describe a character, or are just something they do once.

And what if a character is sometimes a Damsel out of Distress? If it's enough times, could we describe how they are one through their own abilities and talents?

I disagree that Gameplay and Story Segregation cannot be applied to a character if an example is specific enough. For example, Arueshalae's Romance Sidequest in Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, one of the hurdles is that, being a succubus, according to the story she's likely to kill the PC if they try to consummate (which is eventually fixed if she succeeds in becoming an Ascended Demon). The problem being that, in gameplay, the dhampir player race is immune to the effect in question according to rules-as-written, and by the time it comes up the PC is likely to have access to spells that can temporarily immunize them anyway.

Are Disproportionate Retribution and Misplaced Retribution considered character or story tropes?

Those are actions, so they are not characterizarion unless they happen regularly or have a revealing remark of character's personality.

Edited by Amonimus on Apr 18th 2024 at 10:40:08 PM

I think the best way to consider these questions is to ask if a trope would be mentioned when you're describing a character. Something they do once or twice likely wouldn't make it into that explanation, nor would things that happen to them.

Ah, I see. Just wanted to double check.

Edited by gjjones on Apr 18th 2024 at 3:50:35 PM