Just found another possibly tropeable meaning: "Character is so desireable or charming or sexy that they're virtually irresistible. No person in their right mind can say "no" to them".
E.g. found this example on the YMMV page for Madonna: "The page quote is even a song which Robbie Williams wrote after talking with Guy Ritchie's ex-girlfriend, stating that he left her by saying "Look, you know I really love you, but she's Madonna."
Maybe I'll just YKTTW it and see if it's tropeable enough.
This really is quite the mess.
I think The Pornomancer would probably work best if we reworked it to characters who attract lots of sex by supernatural means which is another thing touched on by the definition but isn't duplicated by anything else.
Which would make an Accidental Pornomancer someone with similar powers but can't control and/or doesn't want them.
edited 1st Sep '15 1:23:12 PM by shimaspawn
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Why requiring supernatural means? That can be handled as a case of Justified Trope already, and if we do implement your suggestion it will leave the trope with no way to apply Justified Trope.
edited 1st Sep '15 1:51:32 PM by MarqFJA
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This sounds tropeable, but it should probably go through YKTTW first, since it's almost a new trope under an old name. As for the accidental version, I think it'll depend on whether there are enough examples of it.
By the way, would non-supernatural superpowers also fit that definition? E.g. Wolverine's mutation gave him animal pheromones that help him attract women's attention.
The problem is that this trope as it is seems to be too similar to Chick Magnet / Dude Magnet.
edited 1st Sep '15 2:16:37 PM by Rjinswand
I think mutant powers are close enough to supernatural. We can probably include aliens and inhuman monsters as well.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
That still doesn't address the Justified Trope issue.
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I see. So basically anyone who has special seduction powers, no matter their origin? I think it works, I can try YKTTW'ing it. I don't know many examples, though.
Sorry, what exactly do you mean? Not every trope needs a Justified use.
Or do you mean that this meaning should be just a justified use of Chick Magnet? I can be done, but then again, a justified use can become its own trope if it's distinct enough and is used often enough.
Another related trope I just learned about: Sexy Man, Instant Harem.
...I wish this topic got a bit more attention 
These are my suggestions:
X attracts a lot of Y without trying:
- Chick Magnet / Chick Magnet: X attracts a lot of Y without trying.
- Clueless Chick-Magnet / Clueless Dude Magnet: X attracts a lot of Y without trying or realizing it.
- Accidental Pornomancer: X attracts a lot of Y without trying, ending in sex.
X attracts a lot of Y while trying to:
- Really Gets Around: X attracts a lot of Y while trying to, ending in sex.
- The Casanova: X attracts a lot of Y while trying to, and cares for them.
- The Don Juan: X attracts a lot of Y while trying to, and doesn't care for them.
- Kavorka Man: X attracts a lot of Y while trying to, despite being unattractive and having awful personality. The point is that X conquests seem inexplicable.
X doesn't attracts a lot of Y despite trying to:
- Casanova Wannabe: X doesn't attracts a lot of Y despite trying to because of awful personality, but believes being The Casanova.
- Handsome Lech: X doesn't attracts a lot of Y despite trying to and being attractive, because of awful personality, specifically perverted lust.
- Extraverted Nerd: X doesn't attracts a lot of Y despite trying to because of being awkward and nerdy, but believes being irresistible.
Other:
- Sexy Man, Instant Harem: X attracts a lot of Y at the same time almost instantly, who forget about everything but show their attraction to X. Whether X tries to attract Y or not is irrelevant.
- Harem Seeker: X goal is to have multiple love interests at the same time.
- Chivalrous Pervert: X has a perverted lust for Y but at the same time respects Y. X acts like The Don Juan but is actually more like The Casanova, but X ability to actually attract Y is irrelevant for the trope. Not the same as Lovable Sex Maniac who is a Played for Laughs sex addict/molester.
edited 1st Nov '15 10:53:22 PM by Zoorteg
There's also the trope Serial Romeo, which defines itself as "The Casanova, but s/he really loves them" despite really caring for them, as mentioned, not being a part of the Casanova and would make the Trope Namer Not An Example.
edited 29th May '16 3:04:36 AM by Morgenthaler
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Fellow tropers!
I've noticed that a lot of tropes regarding a character who has (or tries to have) luck with people of the preferred sex, seem to have superfluous or imprecise definitions, and sometimes attract misuse.
Here's what I've gathered so far: note
X attracts a lot of Y without trying:
X attracts a lot of Y while trying to:
- "X has a perverted lust for Y but is a good person" (which is dangerously close to Lovable Sex Maniac), or
- "X attracts a lot of Y while trying to, but doesn't take advantage of them".
—>This looks like two different tropes mashed onto one page (if the 1st definition is a separate trope from Lovable Sex Maniac, that is). The 2nd definition could work as a trope. But what makes things even more confusing is that the actual historical Casanova was an example of this 2nd definition of Chivalrous Pervert, and not The Casanova.X doesn't attract a lot of Y, despite trying to:
Honorable mentions:
My suggestion (feel free to mercilessly critique):
Thoughts?
edited 14th Aug '15 12:35:28 PM by Rjinswand