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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM
Would it be worth manually adding bolded "this trope is under review at TRS" notes to the main page of tropes with open threads? It's not quite as clean and elegant a solution as the old banners were, but it has the advantage of being something we can implement right away instead of waiting for a tech team that seem perpetually overworked.
Discarded and Feeling Blue
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The only issue there is that people without accounts might find it intrusive. I could be wrong, but weren't the banners only for logged-in users?
Redmess
I think a big part of the problem that we should acknowledge is that this site has grown so large that the work required to maintain it is growing beyond what people are willing to do for free on their own free time.
Perhaps we should start looking more at ways to automate and streamline these jobs.
Optimism is a duty.
(she/her)
I agree about automation being helpful in some cases but that is up to to the admins and we can't do much talking about something we can't control in the end.
Macron's notes
Discarded and Feeling Blue
Yeah, in some causes automation will be useful, but for now we need to figure out what we ordinary tropers can do.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I like the idea of manually adding a link to the page. Having it appear to those with accounts isn't the worst; it might encourage persistent lurkers to make an account.
"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
Blapper of Water
Yeah, the automation proposed for 2.0 is a long way away.
I think we could probably write something at the top in comment-out markup linking to the TRS page. That wouldn't be so intrusive and only tropers / editors would see it.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
Short-Term Projects herald
It wouldn't do much good if you were simply reading the page while logged-in, though.
Discarded and Feeling Blue
I do still think we need to make use of our bulletin feature, maybe to do something along the lines of link to the TRS threads most in need of closure or discussion or crowner votes and update it monthly?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
I like the idea of adding a link to the top of pages under discussion; possibly with header or ! markup.
Blapper of Water
people who curate pages edit them often and would normally follow the pages for edits, no? Your criticism doesn't seem legitimate...
Discarded and Feeling Blue
Right, but if we want a lot more attention, we'd need to attract people who just have a passing interest in the trope, not people who curate it and edit a lot.
(she/her)
I think the mods typically frown upon things that will inconvenience casual readers but a makeshift banner like could be made an exception I think.
Trope is under discussion in this TVTropes Repair Shop / Image Pickin here
Macron's notes
It was brought up earlier to take certain issues to ATT instead of TRS... but does ATT even have the ability to decide on page changes?
And I do agree that whenever new threads are being opened, the oldest ones in the forum should be considered first. It's a queue.
Discarded and Feeling Blue
ATT doesn't have the power to decide much, but it does have the power to, say, decide on cleanup or move a page's namespace or work out whether or not something is misuse. If what someone is looking for is just to clean bad examples or figure out what the trope's definition is, TRS isn't the place to go- though Projects is probably a better fit than ATT.
Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 6th 2020 at 5:00:24 AM
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ATT is also a place that many people read, so cross-posting in ATT saying "come to this thread" once TRS threads get opened might attract a broader audience.
"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
Discarded and Feeling Blue
...So there's a Grammar Nazi thread that complains that it "trivializes nazism" and "feels insulting". I really don't think I need to explain why I think this thread should be morgued, do I?
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(she/her)
Yeah looks like it should be tossed for the poor OP online.
Sidenote: But I think most of the 46 locked threads on TRS could be safely morgued
Macron's notes
Trivializing in action.
Edited by garyghi on Jun 30th 2020 at 10:02:38 AM
Discarded and Feeling Blue
I agree; There's a lot of posts in here detailing the different threads that should be locked up.
ATT or Trope Talk; not TRS. Something as big as changing a title needs a lot of support, especially if it's just because the title may be offensive and not because it's causing any notable issues with the trope's usage. You'd need some sort of support before jumping to TRS.
I'll say right now though that I'm opposed to changing the title, as it's a common term as you point out, and it's not exactly using "Nazi" as a good or flattering term- Grammar Nazi is an insult for a reason, and it's not meant to be a positive trope with positive connotations.
Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 6th 2020 at 11:31:10 AM
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Discarded and Feeling Blue
IDK if we need that Smart Animal, Inconvenient Instincts page, considering it's a rogue launched trope that needs to be sent back, not something that demands TRS attention.
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Redmess
Don't we already have a trope about that?
Optimism is a duty.
Discarded and Feeling Blue
Probably, but that'd just be another reason to kick it back.
If we can discuss TRS Wick Cleaning here... I forget where we discussed removing Fetish Fuel as complete, maybe it was here...
Anyway... Might correcting all the Image Boards potholes for Website.4Chan be done? 4Chan has 900+ wicks compared to Image Boards' 400+...
I think 4Chan is popular enough now?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Edit: Ughh, pagetopper, here's the context:
Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 5th 2020 at 5:34:24 AM
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