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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 28th 2023 at 7:19:52 AM

CytoZytokine Since: Jun, 2022
#9401: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:42:38 AM

Sorry if this isn't the proper place to ask this but, how do I type different-colored evil text in forum posts? The markup section only lists the default    red    color.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#9402: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:45:23 AM

Insert any color into Evil.

   Sans    [[evil:[[blue:Undertale]]]]

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HoloMew151 Space Gal from From Deep, Deep Space Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Tweaking my holographic boyfriend
Space Gal
#9403: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:52:11 AM

I wouldn’t worry too much about the decline of the wiki. After all, it doesn’t feel dead yet.

themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#9404: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:54:36 AM

[up] Yeah, I guess you're right. The community is still large enough that the site can survive at least.

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BackSet1 You Could Use some Imagination from I'm sure you'd love to know that, wouldn't you? Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
You Could Use some Imagination
#9405: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:56:28 AM

Maybe we should make milkshakes.

"Hope for our world, tragedy for another."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#9406: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:56:57 AM

I was thinking a lemonade stand

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CytoZytokine Since: Jun, 2022
#9407: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:57:08 AM

[1]

Thanks! I really think the color text instructions in the markup box needs to be updated to let people know that alternate evil text colors are possible.

BackSet1 You Could Use some Imagination from I'm sure you'd love to know that, wouldn't you? Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
You Could Use some Imagination
#9408: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:59:12 AM

[up][up] Lemonade stands are nice but I heard milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard.

Edited by BackSet1 on Aug 22nd 2022 at 8:59:18 AM

"Hope for our world, tragedy for another."
Archsage MAGIC MISSILE SWEEP from My House Since: Apr, 2022 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
MAGIC MISSILE SWEEP
#9409: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:59:16 AM

[up][up][up][up]&[up][up][up] How about Lemon Milkshakes? tongue

Edited by Archsage on Aug 22nd 2022 at 8:59:31 AM

Some call it stalking, I say walking just extremely close behind
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#9410: Aug 22nd 2022 at 5:59:17 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] I've made shakes myself at home. If you ever get Girl Scouts Thin Mints, put them in a blender with vanilla ice cream (preferably Haagen-Dazs vanilla bean), chocolate syrup (I like Hershey's Special Dark syrup myself), and milk. It's actually really good. (If you don't have Thin Mints, substitute Keebler Grasshopper cookies, they're pretty close. Don't know what the overseas equivalent would be.)

Anyway I'm going to veer us back on-topic since this thread isn't for milkshake recipes. I wonder how effective shipping TRS thread wick cleanups off to their dedicated threads has been.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Aug 22nd 2022 at 9:02:02 AM

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#9411: Aug 22nd 2022 at 7:31:24 AM

I personally don't know many clean ups that are still still active after being shipped. Unfortunate Implications already already had an active clean up thread before it was brought to TRS. But we have things that aren't actively being cleaned on TRS because someone willing hasn't shown up or people yet or people moved on to other projects so that's just how things work.

Edited by MacronNotes on Aug 22nd 2022 at 10:38:35 AM

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BackSet1 You Could Use some Imagination from I'm sure you'd love to know that, wouldn't you? Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
You Could Use some Imagination
#9412: Aug 22nd 2022 at 7:51:55 AM

Yeah, should have known that meme was too outdated.

"Hope for our world, tragedy for another."
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#9413: Aug 22nd 2022 at 8:16:41 AM

If deferring TRS cleanup to a Projects thread ends up not working, it's still possible to bring the thread back from the Morgue and let TRS finish the job (assuming anyone is willing and it doesn't end up stalling).

However, I'm still in favor of deferring to cleanup threads if one existed prior to the TRS thread, because in those cases, there's somewhere for cleanup to take place (as opposed to the threads that neither had a cleanup thread nor finished cleanup on TRS before being Morgued) and the slot can be freed up for a new thread.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 22nd 2022 at 10:20:40 AM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#9414: Aug 22nd 2022 at 10:36:49 AM

I think the deferrals work best when:

  • There's already been an active cleanup we can jump back to
  • The cleanup work isn't as simple as just deleting examples or changing the name, and instead could require a deeper level of more consistent discussion even if it takes longer

They work best for projects that simply require more hands on deck and it's a bonus point if such a thread already exists. However, the nature of the project forums means that some threads become hot subjects with a lot of people involved, and others just get ignored if people think they're too complicated or not worth having a discussion for. It's really more dependent on the whims and culture of the project threads moreso than the TRS itself.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#9415: Aug 22nd 2022 at 11:19:21 AM

I do recall that one reason why deferring "Funny Aneurysm" Moment's cleanup to the Hindsight thread was suggested was so the thread could vet the examples before deciding whether to move them to Harsher in Hindsight or remove them entirely, and that's generally (if not always) why I defer cleanup to Projects threads if there's already a thread.

Since this is the observations thread, I might as well share an observation that Short-Term Projects seems to be less active than Long-Term Projects; while I have seen people comment on it before, it seems like whenever a thread I defer cleanup work to is in STP, I usually end up moving the thread to LTP shortly afterward in the hopes that the cleanup effort attracts more activity. At first I think it was because moving it to LTP was requested by someone in the thread, but during the most recent case, I asked ahead of time whether to move the thread.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 22nd 2022 at 1:31:43 PM

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#9416: Aug 22nd 2022 at 11:30:25 AM

[up] I've noticed that as well. Short-Term doesn't get as many people for some reason. I recently hollered for (and got) the X Killer cleanup to be moved to Long-Term to help get some more attention brought to it (and also because the tropes are still chronically misused).

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#9417: Aug 22nd 2022 at 11:30:56 AM

To be fair, trope-specific cleanups really shouldn't be in short term since unless it's, like, a locked Darth page or something then the cleanup will go on indefinitely as misuse gets added and things need to get chopped down.

Short-term works best for work-specific cleanups and stuff where there's a clear and easy-to-achieve end-point.

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 22nd 2022 at 2:32:18 PM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#9420: Aug 22nd 2022 at 1:05:55 PM

jesus christ that image is too big

New theme music also a box
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#9421: Aug 22nd 2022 at 1:07:59 PM

Lol IDEK what the joke is meant to be there

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BackSet1 You Could Use some Imagination from I'm sure you'd love to know that, wouldn't you? Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
You Could Use some Imagination
#9422: Aug 22nd 2022 at 1:09:21 PM

Neither do I.

"Hope for our world, tragedy for another."
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#9423: Aug 22nd 2022 at 1:09:38 PM

Ultimatum removed the joke for some reason.

Edited by Amonimus on Aug 22nd 2022 at 11:09:47 AM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#9424: Aug 22nd 2022 at 1:10:33 PM

Probably because it wasn't even obvious that it was a joke and not just some random formatting error.

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#9425: Aug 22nd 2022 at 1:14:13 PM

They should not remove things without an edit reason, in any case. Especially if not everyone agrees.

Edited by Piterpicher on Aug 22nd 2022 at 10:14:49 AM

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