RWBY General Discussion

Just for you, I will keep making this joke until the heat death of the universe.

That's a random question. While I find the image of Jaune as Sister of Battle amusing, the truth is no RWBY character belongs in any imperial army, as they would be instantly deemed heretics for their weird beliefs and executed if brought down. And since it's doubtful any xeno race would ever let them into their ranks, they would be left with only two real options: Tau Empire and Chaos. That or staying neutral in all that mess.

Given that Tau are in a pretty poor situation when it comes to manpower, they would gladly accept any powerful fighter willing to join them. Both team RWBY and JNPR could probably be persuaded to fight alongside Tau, even if they find some of the Empire's actions to be abhorent. I can definitely see them going with the lesser evil, especially if someone sells them an idealized image of Tau.

Ironwood and Winter wouldn't be persuaded by anyone easily, if at all. I can honestly see Ironwood going on his own and starting a rebellion on some imperial world, hoping to liberate it and establish his own force in the galaxy.

Jacques is the only character who I can see joining up with the Imperium, though probably not in a military fashion. The most Jacques-y thing for him to do in 40k universe would be to converse with some Rogue Trader and offer him some advice as to how perform business more efficiently.

Adam and Cinder would definitely fall to chaos, either out of desire for power or just so that thy can freely kill some people for fun. Emerald and Mercury, in spite of their loyalty to Cinder, would probably find that too much and bail out out of the entire thing. Maybe they could make criminal careers on some Hive World somewhere.

I don't think salem would willingly join Chaos. She doesn't seem like a religious type, or even that much power-hungry. She would probably just hang out somewhere quiet, like she did in her cottage all these millenia.

Upon seeing the mess that is 40k galaxy, Ozpin would try to join whoever seems like the best hope for improvement. It might be Tau Empire, but I can also see him cutting a deal with the Eldar. He probably wouldn't feel comfortable joining the Imperium of Man, unless he encountered some Reasonable Authority Figure who also wanted to improve things without going xenocidal.

Apathy is Death. Worse than Death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds beasts and insects.

Okay, given that the Character pages are essentially done, we've got two other issues we need to sort out before Volume 7 kicks off:

1. The First Members warning note: do we keep it, do we expand it to all pages (except Recap), do we get rid of it?
2. The Team RWBY page is still locked. To get it unlocked, we need to decide if Yang and Blake are Ambiguously Bi, Ambiguously Gay, or Bi The Way, and show the mods that the issue has been resolved. It was locked because this kept erupting into an Edit War. Even when trying to resolve it through discussion pages or Is This An Example? people were still engaging in an Edit War and, every time a decision seemed to be made, people who didn't like the results but had never engaged in discussions previously would start the Edit War all over.

My personal thoughts on both points:

1. The partial use of it caused enough confusion that it ended up on ATT, so I think it needs to be either removed or expanded to all pages, the same as things like Death Battle. Speaking as a First Member myself, I'd prefer to see us wait a week before troping. Non-Members would either have to avoid being able to trope for the entire volume's run or be spoiled every week by people who are troping a week ahead of them. First Members waiting a week seems far less disruptive. Plus, it saves having to clean-up any trope misuse by First Members that then gets repeated by free viewers a week later.
2. Personally, I think the show has given us enough to trope Blake as Bi The Way (Adam is her ex, and she's had Ship Tease with both Sun and Yang), but I'm fine with Ambiguously Bi if it stops people fighting over it. Yang would probably be best placed under Ambiguously Bi, since she's displayed a general interest in boys on one occasion but her interest in females is limited entirely to a single female with whom she regularly engages.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.

I'd say put Blake under Bi The Way, and Yang under Ambiguously Bi.

Also....only recently found out about the, direction they took that Carmine Charachter from the After the fall book Via the Complete Monster cleanup. I gotta say, of all the guesses for what her Charachter would have been like. "Child Trafficker" would have been my last guess.

Edited by Kylotrope on Aug 11th 2019 at 4:24:16 AM

Things are really about to get Fun around here

Oh yeah. Actual issues.

1. The edit delay should be expanded to all pages save for recap ones, I believe. I probably will end up benefiting from that, since I'm not planning on watching the episodes as they're released, but it really seems like the best option.

2. I don't think it's fair to list Blake as Bi The Way but keep Yang as Ambiguously Bi. Just have them both be Ambiguously Bi and only change that once they actually kiss or something. Seems like the simplest solution.

Carmine is a rather crappy person. Was kind of surprised as well, but then again, it's not like being hot prevents you from being evil in RWBY setting.

Edited by Tharkun140 on Aug 11th 2019 at 1:34:14 PM

Apathy is Death. Worse than Death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds beasts and insects.

So this video has helped make Bumblebee an easier pill to swallow. Namely going through the relationship based off the handful of pivotal scenes and showing how the relationship evolved with each moment.

I agree with Tharkun. Unless Blake is confirmed to also be into girls, troping her as Bi The Way rather than Ambiguously Bi is the wrong call. Put both as Ambiguously Bi.

You see, I would watch that and be happy someone is trying to analyze it.... but its mediacrity and his videos tend to annoy me.^note Don't want to get into a whole debate, just know I feel he treats his personal opinions as fact, and the audio quality gives me an earache. There's also the fact its yet another video treating this as if it were canon when it still isn't, and I'm currently dreading the shit show that will happen if Volume 7 confirms it isn't and everyone starts throwing around "queerbaiting",^note How I wish for the day where a persons sexuality wasn't seen as this big deal and people could be represented equally without there being so much issue or controversy. But then again, we're human, and we fucking suck. while equally dreading the ship wars that will ensue regardless of the outcome.^note Next to Steven Universe and Star vs. the Forces of Evil, RWBY has one of the most vile shipping bases I've seen. Both on the Black Sun side and the Bumblebee side.
I thought she was just a human trafficker in general, not specifically kids. Seriously, she and her partner are scum, no doubt about that, but it does interest me they were hunting people with strong Semblances specifically. So either someone is making an army out of them, someone (read: Salem) wants to weaken Vacuo by eliminating potential malfactors, or someone is like Marcus as has All for One powers just with Semblances.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Aug 12th 2019 at 3:45:48 PM

Vegeta: I'm back bitches!

It's official. The hotter you are the more sinister you are.

See Cinder, Salem, Neo, and now Carmine for examples.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!

Eh... its all subjective, but to me Neo is more Cute But Psycho than hot, Cinder is only hot in the literal sense not the attractive sense, Salem seems meh, and I was never really fond of Carmine's design.

Vegeta: I'm back bitches!

I could understand not being impressed by one of the four. Two out of four I'd say different strokes, different folks. Three I'd be like, okay, we might not agree but I'll defend your right to-

But all four that's... that's just... I'm at a loss for words. I feel faint.

Edited by Soble on Aug 11th 2019 at 7:12:57 AM

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!

They're all "hot"...even the 4th one with the "C" name.

YO. Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie.

@On Yang and Blake: Put 'em both as Ambiguously Bi and be done with it.

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.

I never found Cinder sexy, to be honest. Prettily drawn, yeah, like any female character in this series. But hot? Only in the sense of her literal powers.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.

I certainly would "have use" for Cinder, Neo, and Raven doujins, so I guess I would qualify them as "hot".

Also Raven is the hottest character. Don't @ me.

"while equally dreading the ship wars that will ensue regardless of the outcome"

You will have to blame Adam dialogue, is hard not making a ship after your ex pretty much thinking they are.

I will said Salem is not "hot" but she is beautifull and have a sort of charm, what is hilarious for me she is a good example of "never stick your dick in evil".

So far for me RWBY are cute and maybe pretty but that it, Neo is the same as Emerald, Cinder can be hot but her personality and over the top manners pull me off, now Raven....yeah, she is hot.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Cinder is totes hot but Raven is defs mega hot

Yeah I can see why Taiyang would go for her.

I mean it wasnt a good choice but one can understand why he would do it, Taiyang should have stay with Qrow and nothing bad would happen.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Raven is definitely a case of anime mom, on that she looks just as young, if not even younger, than her daughter.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.

I would definitely call her "mommy".

So, she is the female version of Ironwood.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Tastes defer is all.

Neo is more traditionally cute to me with her being so small. Her original outfit was very good looking too. Her current outfit is alright, but leaning a bit into Fetish Retardant. Namely her midriff being exposed and her shoulders laid bare. She looks like a cross between a coat and a tube top. Honeslty, fix the shoulders and she'd have looked better, since the midriff being exposed is pretty much a staple for a lot of female character designs in this show.

Salem I will say is pretty good looking even after being afflicted with the Pools of Destruction. Her outfit however is very conservative and her personality reminds me to not get involved with crazy. She's good looking, just not hot. Honestly, the hairstyle is a bit offputting too. She looked better in "The Lost Fable", and I mean her corrupted look that episode. Similar outfit, but her hairstyle wasn't so busy, and her cloak was longer. She gave off a bit of a regal appearance, but she still looked very attractive to me.

Cinder's personality is a major turnoff to me, and her typical outfits I'm not a huge fan of. Her original outfit is a generic little red dress, her catsuit is alright, her V4-V5 outfit is meh, and her V6 on outfit makes me think she's a pirate. Her best outfit imo is the Outfit she wore in V3 while disguised as a student. Not too revealing, not too conservative, and looks ready to fight at any given moment.

Carmine... her outfit is just dumb and screams Fetish Retardant to me. Chainmail only covering her breasts, her shorts are pretty much daisy dukes, her coat shows off her midriff but also shows off nearly every thing else, thigh high boots with a belt on one thigh, a mantle covering her shoulders, and a massive red muffler. Add in the color palate, and she looks less hot and more like she's trying too hard to be sexy and failing at it. Add on her horrid personality, and she is not hot to me.

I'm usually of the opinion that "less is more", and not less clothing, rather less effort. More natural appearances that don't mainly rely on sex appeal to be considered attractive. Glynda is attractive to me and she pulls off the Sexy Secretary look despite the rather conservative outfit. Ilia, at least her V6 outfit, is attractive to me, and the most she has is a slight showing of her midriff. Weiss' Volume 4-6 Outfit is more attractive to me, and its rather normal compared to the other's outfits.

Though I will agree, Raven is quite attractive. My only complaints are the miniskirt and her personality. The miniskirt clashes with the rest of her ensemble imo and her personality needs to go through some Character Development. Honestly, swap the miniskirt for some pants or even shorts and she looks a lot better.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Aug 12th 2019 at 3:18:34 PM

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Regarding the mediaocrity video:

His main point, aside from the standard "Adam was always an abusive ex!" crap I will not even comment on, is that Yang and Blake's relationship is based on the latters inability to see Yang as her equal and that their fight against Adam works as an conclusion of an arc because they resolve to protect one another. Thing is, while that explains some of the weirder lines in the show, it isn't what the story actually shows us. During their first encounter with Adam, Yang tries to protect Blake, fails, then Blake succeeds at protecting Yang. They've been protecting each other back then. They were also working together back during the Manticore fight, and during, well, every battle they fought together, I think. There were also the times Blake temporarily left Yang to do her own thing, such as during the train fight or during the Battle of Haven. All in all, if Blake thought that Yang was someone she needed to protect and not expect protection from, she did not act on that belief. They had been "protecting each other" for a while now, and when the protection was one-sided, it was because one of them was pinned down or unconcious. Other times it was non-existent. I can understand Yang being angry with Blake being an introvert or having weird ideas of what is good for her friends, but if she is angry that Blake is offering her too much protection or that she doesn't accept enough protection in return, she is angsting over nothing.

tl;dr While the author might be on point as to what CRWBY intended to do, he only talks about parts of the story that confirm his conclusion rather than the ones that run contrary to it.

Also, I love how he casually mentions that Blake's behavior didn't change from the start of the series. Arguing that there is a complex arc people don't notice while admitting there has been no development in character's behavior.

Regarding the sexiness factor:

I too find Cinder to be one of less attractive female characters in RWBY, probably due to the show's artistic style. The characters are so colorful and over-the-top, that Cinder with her mostly realistic proportions just seems sort of bland. The main characters have s sort of energy to them that makes them hotter than Cinder IMO.

Other evil females are better though. Salem might not appeal to me in her current form, but before her Grimm transformation and even right after she was pretty damn hot. Neo is great — though I rather dislike her current outfit — and Carmine is hot regarless of how dumb her literal Chainmail Bikini is. An of course, Emerald's hips don't lie.

Also, how can we talk about Evil Is Sexy without mentioning Adam? His handsomeness is probably his only consistent quality — he can even look good with horrific facial scarrings. I once assumed the reason he rose in the ranks of the White Fang was because of his martial prowess, but now that I think about it, Sienna probably just liked having him around for the looks.

Edited by Tharkun140 on Aug 12th 2019 at 12:44:45 PM

Apathy is Death. Worse than Death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds beasts and insects.

I don't get why were debating who the hottest women is in RWBY we all know the hottest is Maria

I'd put my vote for Jinn, it takes a lot of guts to wear your birthday suit in the middle of a winter wonderland.

I think RWBY characters are (to borrow someone else's words) generically cute/attractive. Have no real problems with their design, but it usually takes a certain artist to make them stick out to me (like with Oda).

hey young Maria is fine