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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#5226: Jul 19th 2017 at 2:42:10 PM

Should I use TRS Wick Cleaning to manage The Gardener wick sorting, for those that need to move to Mundane Utility?

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5227: Jul 19th 2017 at 3:25:31 PM

I think we were discussing the Main/, Analysis/, and Useful Notes/ pages. They did all stem from the same draft.

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5228: Jul 20th 2017 at 5:31:29 AM

[up][up]yeh

[up]ah, I thought since the Main/ had seen minor edits from mods they approved of that one

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#5229: Jul 21st 2017 at 5:45:32 AM

Hulk just showed up, an almost empty page saying that Ang Lee had an alternate script, and directing them to another site.

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5230: Jul 21st 2017 at 7:23:14 AM

Given that the film exists and that page just says there was a version of the script they didn't use, that needs to be cut with extreme prejudice. Every single production goes through that.

edited 21st Jul '17 7:23:30 AM by lakingsif

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5231: Jul 21st 2017 at 8:26:23 AM

Agreed.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#5232: Jul 21st 2017 at 9:04:40 AM

If they actually went through and identified the differences by tropes, that might work.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5233: Jul 21st 2017 at 10:01:49 AM

That would then be a Darth Wiki page for an unreleased work.

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5234: Jul 21st 2017 at 10:21:43 AM

Not that it's an unreleased work... it's a previous draft. Anything interesting could be put under Hulk's What Could Have Been.

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#5235: Jul 21st 2017 at 6:09:12 PM

On the change to The Gardener, could we rename, then handle changing the wicks? 'Cause it's more work the other way around, 'cause some examples are valid for Caring Gardener?

Also perhaps a Lonely Gardener subversion or something?

So, description:

Gardeners tend and care for plant life, so it makes sense for them to extend that caring towards human lives as well?

Although, a common subversion would be the preference of plants over people, as plants don't have the emotions that people do, making a Lonely Gardener instead.

The gardeners in question don't have to strictly be called gardeners, they could be farmers, or horiculturalists, as long as they take care of plants, and are caring, they count for this trope.

edited 21st Jul '17 6:13:17 PM by Malady

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5236: Jul 22nd 2017 at 6:48:06 AM

Well, first we could holler at Septimus Heap to move The Gardener to Caring Gardener

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5238: Jul 22nd 2017 at 7:29:41 AM

[up] cut list it, but we could also ask theseasofsorrow what it's supposed to be, I guess, especially since they're not really using the Quotes/ namespace right, either (Quotes.Mortal Kombat X One Liners)

edited 22nd Jul '17 7:32:07 AM by lakingsif

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Axelmania Since: Jun, 2017
#5239: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:08:56 AM

I recently made Guardians Evolution and was warned I didn't have enough tropes and it would be deleted if I didn't add more. Does anyone know the minimum needed to keep it? Been a while since I watched so hard to remember everything plus I have not committed many tropes to memory.

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5240: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:11:52 AM

That page needs a description, 3 examples with context (currently it has none), and to be indexed. If it stays in a condition like it is now for more than a few days it'll be cut. Look at other pages for ideas (WesternAnimation.Phineas And Ferb, for example)

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#5242: Jul 26th 2017 at 3:37:43 AM

It's meant to be a Just for Fun page, since YMMV pages don't have images or captions, so the special font goes underused. You can use this page if you really want to see images with captions with that font. I made it, by the way. I want to do WMG.Images With WMG Font Captions, too.

edited 26th Jul '17 3:41:51 AM by Piterpicher

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5243: Jul 26th 2017 at 7:53:29 AM

It's pretty redundant now that the font is no longer different, though

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5244: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:10:26 AM

I was going to ask if it was worth archiving (which I think in theory it is), but it's not even a month old, only one troper used it, it has only five entries, and like [up] said the font isn't different anymore. I think the page could be cut.

edited 26th Jul '17 8:11:14 AM by WaterBlap

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#5245: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:11:31 AM

It IS different, please check the image at the top of Wiki Sandbox. Then compare it with those images. And as for the only five entries part, I made it yesterday, so it's obviously going to be small for now.

edited 26th Jul '17 8:23:44 AM by Piterpicher

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5246: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:37:14 AM

[up]It isn't, unless you're somehow getting the previous version of the site. I'm also amused at how you wrote on a completely unconventional page that as long as there's no porn it's fine, without asking anyone if the page was fine.

Cut the page.

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#5247: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:42:51 AM

My final argument before I give up and cut that page: The difference is miniscule. The YMMV font seems be more thick than the completely normal font, while also being less thick than the normal bold font. It's also automatically ALL CAPS.

Could at least WMG.Images With WMG Font Captions be okay? The font would definitely be different there.

edited 26th Jul '17 8:50:00 AM by Piterpicher

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5248: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:50:10 AM

I honestly think the software just puts the font into all caps (and no not "all caps" but regular all caps). That's not really a special font...

Edit: [nja]'d about the all caps thing. My point about it not being a special font still stands, though. I still think it ought to be cut.

edited 26th Jul '17 8:52:54 AM by WaterBlap

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5249: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:50:46 AM

@Piterpicher There is no difference in font, how you can tell is that the name of the page is in the same font that captions would be in. (This also means, actually, that the WMG, Funny, etc. fonts are in use on every single one of those pages). Yes we used to have flames and rainbows and cool fonts, but for better or worse the site is more sleek.

I'll give you some advice, if that's ok. Start small — you've become addicted to TVT, that's cool, but you don't have to make it your own site now. You do some good clean up work, which is great. Maybe start by testing the waters in YKTTW.

edited 26th Jul '17 8:52:24 AM by lakingsif

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#5250: Jul 26th 2017 at 9:00:30 AM

Alright, page is being cut. Thanks for the advice, but I think I'll stick to clean up for now. I'll stop making new pages of this type for some time, too (and that includes WMG.Images With WMG Font Captions).

edited 26th Jul '17 9:03:23 AM by Piterpicher

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