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Due to (somewhat) recent changes to the source code and text parser, the hottip no longer works as it used to. Specifically, the text parser does not distinguish between the end of a pothole and the end of a hottip.

Therefore, I am creating this thread to clean up hottip markup in the wiki, and do one of the following:

  1. Remove the hottip and weave the explanation into the description.
  2. Replace the hottip with either the note or labelnote markup, as appropriate.

Syntax for a note markup is (for those who are unaware):

[[note]]-text to be revealed-[[/note]], which yields: note 

Syntax for a labelnote is: [[labelnote:-text to be displayed-]]-text to be revealed-[[/labelnote]], which yields:

-text to be displayed- 

edited 26th Oct '13 9:36:35 AM by Willbyr

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Jul 4th 2012 at 4:58:36 PM

I'm fixing those I come across. I'm a bit busy to do more, but I'll give help anyway.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Jul 4th 2012 at 5:00:07 PM

Also, I split Hottip Cleanup T into two vaguely equal chunks, because it was so long that it was in danger of breaking the page.

edited 4th Jul '12 5:00:18 PM by DarkConfidant

HiddenWindshield King of Crayons from somewhere else
King of Crayons
Jul 4th 2012 at 5:13:27 PM

Shouldn't there be a note in the Hot Tip Administrivia page about hottips being phased out?

(I'd do it myself, but I'm still new, and don't want to overstep my bounds.)

I teleported home last night / With Ron and Sid and Meg / Ron stole Meggy's heart away / And I got Sidney's leg - Douglas Adams
Jul 4th 2012 at 5:14:46 PM

I'm trying to get the hottip page replaced with a sandbox I made about a week ago.

However, I've received no contact about doing so, and I'm not ready to get banned over this.

Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
Jul 5th 2012 at 7:46:16 AM

[up] My only objection to putting that in place is that, AFAIK, this issue hasn't been fixed yet.

Jul 5th 2012 at 7:47:59 AM

That's a fair point. With that said, I would like to make a note on the administrivia page for Hottips to note that they are being phased out.

Willbyr Hi Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
Jul 5th 2012 at 8:09:19 AM

[up] Done. I added a link to the sandbox as well...if/when it's approved, we can swap it in.

HiddenFacedMatt Avatars may be subject to change without notice.
Avatars may be subject to change without notice.
Jul 5th 2012 at 8:41:13 AM

While we're at it, would this be a good thread to discuss the use of labelnote to replace spoiler tags? I find the white blanking out of text inconvenient, as it's hard to tell which text is potholed to what.

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England
In uffish thought
Jul 5th 2012 at 8:44:06 AM

I don't think this thread is the right place; that's a much larger discussion that should probably happen in Wiki Talk. Personally, I don't want to see spoilers replaced with labelnotes because it's harder to highlight larger amounts of text and it would look worse on the page than whited-out text. I have other issues with the idea, but I can't articulate them.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Jul 14th 2012 at 12:44:43 PM

I just ran Footnote Fever through a program to replace all the hottips with labelnotes, and then fixed some more things by hand.

Jul 16th 2012 at 7:11:20 AM

With Guardian Heroes, I used "Who?" instead of the default label for the note identifying characters pictured.

StarAngel125 from Still Queens, NYC
Jul 20th 2012 at 2:45:25 AM

I just replaced the hottips with the labelnotes on the Memes.Game Show page.

FELH2 TV Tropes' very wikibot
TV Tropes' very wikibot
Aug 5th 2012 at 4:50:42 PM

To make things easier, I added a line to my script that replaces simple hottips (those using the * sign, and without potholes or spoilers). The test on NightmareFuel.Shin Megami Tensei worked.

edited 5th Aug '12 4:51:45 PM by FELH2

Get rid of the walled garden
FELH2 TV Tropes' very wikibot
TV Tropes' very wikibot
Aug 6th 2012 at 10:20:47 AM

According to my script, I fixed 200 pages today, concerning hottips. (Though I didn't check all of those.)

Now if I can make my script also correct our hottip lists...

Get rid of the walled garden
Geoduck bivalve from Pacific Northwest Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
bivalve
Aug 7th 2012 at 5:10:46 AM

At least for me, the "label" code doesn't work when you're previewing a page before officially saving your changes; I get the sub-scripted word or *, but it's not a clickable link. It's not a crippling flaw, but it is annoying. Any way to fix this?

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FELH2 TV Tropes' very wikibot
TV Tropes' very wikibot
Aug 7th 2012 at 11:58:34 AM

Hmmm, did you notice that in the preview? Me thinks it doesn't work there.

Or do you have two labelnotes with the same content?

Get rid of the walled garden
Geoduck bivalve from Pacific Northwest Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
bivalve
Aug 7th 2012 at 12:25:25 PM

I'm speaking of what you get when you click the Preview button while editing a page. It would just be nice to able to confirm you've done the coding right before saving. The old hottip code works under these circumstances. And yes, I confirmed I had gotten the new coding right after I saved the page. (It was for Doctor Doom, if it matters.)

http://www.mansionofe.com
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Aug 7th 2012 at 4:11:34 PM

[up] Already reported as a bug here. More nagging in that thread may or may not persuade FE to pay attention. It's certainly something I'd like to see addressed.

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Aug 7th 2012 at 4:16:57 PM

So just to be clear — a labelnote is what to use if I want to preserve the *, where "note" in the middle of a sentence would look bad, right?

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Aug 8th 2012 at 9:10:36 PM

[up]Yeah, and it lets you use other messages if you feel like it, which I did with the caption on Costume Porn.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Aug 13th 2012 at 7:49:13 AM

Running into problems on Hold Your Hippogriffs. The labelnote markup italicizes and raises the words, which the hottip markup didn't do. We may need a new solution here.

FELH2 TV Tropes' very wikibot
TV Tropes' very wikibot
Aug 26th 2012 at 5:25:43 AM

Just wanted to tell you that I reunited the indexes for T. Meanwhile, the list is short enough not to break the wiki anymore.

Get rid of the walled garden
Dec 11th 2012 at 4:37:25 AM

I've replaced all the hottips in Characters.Digimon Xros Wars The Young Hunters Leaping Through Time with notes, however a few of the notes seem to not be working. All the Fusion Dance notes except the first one as far as I can see. I have no idea why that is so.

videogmer314 from that one place Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Dec 11th 2012 at 6:12:24 AM

[up] Identical notes not working right is another known bug. If two or more notes have the same text, then clicking on any will open the first one.

edited 11th Dec '12 6:12:39 AM by videogmer314

DunDun Wandering...
Wandering...
May 15th 2013 at 6:27:20 PM

Characters.Wreck It Ralph has "(Note: Each entry is accompanied by a brief note detailing the character's official bio from the movie's site, unless he or she doesn't have one. All characters, with the exception of the cameos, have their bio hidden in a hottip*, in order to save some space.)"

It's in each of the subpages.

edited 15th May '13 6:28:09 PM by DunDun


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