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good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#576: Feb 22nd 2022 at 8:12:40 AM

[up][up][up]Bump. I deleted that entry of What Could Have Been, should the other entry also be deleted?

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Tonwen HoMM Fan from Axeoth Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
HoMM Fan
#577: Feb 22nd 2022 at 8:37:33 AM

Blackfish, much like The Diary of a Young Girl, contains of real life troping, being a documentary and all. The moments pages are also kind of messy and loaded with ZCEs.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#578: Feb 22nd 2022 at 10:16:47 AM

IDK if there's any specific rule pages about this, but you can pretty much just delete everything that isn't troping the contents of the work itself.

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good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#579: Feb 22nd 2022 at 10:23:11 AM

[up][up] Yes, there is quite a few things that should go.

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good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#580: Feb 22nd 2022 at 10:26:59 AM

[up][up] Indeed, but the thing is that some of the real life troping do trope things that appear in the work, but shouldn't appear because they simply weren't planned by the creator. A documentary can be tropes, but anything that happened in real life (using the Blackfish example, one of the orcas being a Beware the Nice Ones example) cannot, because they are things that simply happened. Anne Frank's diary is even worse because it isn't using storytelling methods any more than any diary would have.

Edited by good-morning on Feb 22nd 2022 at 3:31:21 PM

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good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#581: Feb 22nd 2022 at 6:34:55 PM

Alright, I cut a big part out of The Diary of a Young Girl, what do you think? I tried to mantain the ones that offered quotes, since they can be considered to be discussed, but I think there's more to go.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#582: Feb 24th 2022 at 10:10:55 AM

Is there anything from Neal Boortz that can be saved? Most of this is just personal troping of a real person.

Wafer The Mask Does Not Laugh Since: Oct, 2021 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mask Does Not Laugh
#583: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:34:18 PM

Hey do you guys think Creator.Masahiro Sakurai has any real life person troping in it? I was reading the page and thought that maybe it does, but I just want to make sure.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#584: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:49:39 PM

It seems alright, as they're all cited, but I'm not sure if some of them are NRLEP.

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#585: Feb 24th 2022 at 7:01:37 PM

[up][up]Should I mention And a Diet Coke for Creator.Masahiro Sakurai (and Masahiro Sakurai in the Real Life folder of And a Diet Coke) given that his favourite beverage is Coke Zero and is often seen drinking it in public?

Edited by Nen_desharu on Feb 24th 2022 at 10:03:21 AM

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Psychopompos007 Since: Apr, 2011
#586: Feb 25th 2022 at 2:09:35 AM

I don't know this person so I don't have much context, but And a Diet Coke is about gags where a high-calorie meal contains a single low-calorie item, not about "there is Diet Coke". That said, if Masahiro Sakurai is indeed often seen drinking Coke Zero in public and expressed publicly his taste for the drink, it could count as a Real Life example of Trademark Favorite Food, but since Creators aren't supposed to be troped as fictional characters, it shouldn't be mentioned on its own page (it would be okay on the Real Life section of Trademark Favorite Food).

Edited by Psychopompos007 on Feb 25th 2022 at 11:10:52 AM

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#587: Feb 25th 2022 at 6:37:01 PM

[up]Masahiro Sakurai is the creator of both the Kirby and the Super Smash Bros. video game series.

From Creator.Masahiro Sakurai:

  • Trademark Favorite Food: Coke Zero. In an interview with Tekken series director Katsuhiro Harada, Sakurai admitted to drinking Coke Zero more than water. To the point where at Nintendo meetings, they would have the stuff prepared just for Sakurai.

Yet, And a Diet Coke has a Real Life folder. Should Sakurai be added there?

Edited by Nen_desharu on Feb 25th 2022 at 9:40:14 AM

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Psychopompos007 Since: Apr, 2011
#588: Feb 26th 2022 at 3:41:11 AM

No. According to Laconic, And a Diet Coke is "Offsetting a huge high-calorie feast with a single low-calorie item", which doesn't seem to fit the context of this quote. It definitively seems to fit Trademark Favorite Food, but troping creators' real life in their page is frowned upon, so the example should be removed from his page. Copying it to the Real Life subpage of Trademark Favorite Food is okay.

And a Diet Coke is not The Same, but More Specific of Trademark Favorite Food with a focus on low-calorie substitutes for Coke.

Edited by Psychopompos007 on Feb 26th 2022 at 12:43:12 PM

Tonwen HoMM Fan from Axeoth Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
HoMM Fan
#589: Feb 28th 2022 at 10:57:25 AM

Fletcher Hanks both tropes Hanks himself and has a YMMV page. I'm going to clean up the real life troping but not sure what to do with the rest.

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GiantCicada from Washington Since: Jun, 2019
#590: Feb 28th 2022 at 11:34:17 AM

Strictly Formula isn't a YMMV trope and the example for Awesome Art is pretty general. I don't think we would lose much from just cutting the page.

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#591: Mar 25th 2022 at 9:41:42 AM

Does Trisha Paytas make actual tropable content? The few tropes that are listed seem to be describing her as a person.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#592: Mar 25th 2022 at 9:53:34 AM

Putting aside my personal distaste for Trisha... er... I don't believe she does.

Well, okay, she did write a book once, but it's not enough to justify a whole page for her. Otherwise, she's just a vlogger.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#593: Mar 25th 2022 at 9:56:18 AM

If she wrote a boo, then it's tropeable.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#594: Mar 25th 2022 at 10:13:32 AM

Well, it's also a very sexual potentially content-violating book, so we maybe can't trope it here. But that still wouldn't really warrant a page on Trisha herself.

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 25th 2022 at 1:13:50 PM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#595: Mar 25th 2022 at 10:17:01 AM

Oh, in that case it probably isn't allowed.

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RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#597: May 15th 2022 at 6:09:24 AM

Sounds like a contextless list.

Adult Fear cleanup is on the way, and just found out Wrestling.Triple H have loads of real-life stuff in his list. The Adult Fear's got to go, obviously, but the entries that gleefully says HHH is Arch-Enemy with various people in real life, Depraved Bisexual, Bad Boss, Bald of Evil, Be Careful What You Wish For and a whole lot of others sounds... er, not kosher?

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#598: Jun 15th 2022 at 5:02:48 AM

Bump. Remembered that I've wanted to do this, but the commented warnings on the page make me hesitent to touch it.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#599: Jun 15th 2022 at 9:46:25 AM

[up] Do what? You mean the fandom list?

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#600: Jun 15th 2022 at 9:49:02 AM

[up] Yes. I've tried to ask would it be alright to remove this list (or possibly move the link to the full list to the description) and turn the other two folders into headers, but spaced out.

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