So. Personal opinions on the main wiki aren't allowed, be they gushing or bashing. Now, bashing gets tolerated even less than gushing, and that makes sense; it leads to more flamewars.
But that doesn't mean we have to live with all the gushing either. This thread can serve as a center for keeping it in check. One function might be to alert people to pages that are really heavy in gushing, to the point that it's not just a quick fix and will need some assistance.
From the description of WesternAnimation.Roger Rabbit Shorts:
Since reception isn't allowed in the description, should I just remove this?
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallAt least remove the second part, and replace "Disney-quality" with "Disney."
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Did as such. Thanks Mew.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallOn the main page for Legend of the Galactic Heroes:
And yet, said glacial pace gives way to one of the most well-regarded stories in anime history, rich with philosophical debates, tactical planning, a healthy amount of Genius Bonus, and enough political intrigue to fill the Bundestag three times over. The series is filled with Character Development and dissertations on themes like authoritarianism versus democracy and takes inspiration from many real-life historical empires to form the basis of its background. Anyone from historians to politicians to engineers will find something to like in this series, and if you don't care about any of that stuff it's also a great character drama as well. Plus, who doesn't love political thrillers set in space?
We should probably get rid of this paragraph, but the problem is it comes right after a paragraph describing its low pace and how its complexity can be confusing, so it might come off as ironically complains if you just got rid of that paragraph and didn't change anything else.
And yet, said glacial pace gives way to one of the most well-regarded stories in anime history, rich with philosophical debates, tactical planning, a healthy amount of Genius Bonus, and enough political intrigue to fill the Bundestag three times over. The series is filled with Character Development and dissertations on themes like authoritarianism versus democracy and takes inspiration from many real-life historical empires to form the basis of its background. Anyone from historians to politicians to engineers will find something to like in this series, and if you don't care about any of that stuff it's also a great character drama as well. Plus, who doesn't love political thrillers set in space?
Honestly, these paragraphs need to merged and trimmed. I would cut everything bolded and find a way to just say it's a rich, deeply layered military space opera. A sentence like "it's played straight and seriously" can be always cut. If you don't say that it's played for laughs or is a parody, people will rightly assume it's played straight.
Think of all the drama films this wiki covers. How many of them need a "this story is serious" introduction?
It does reek of "anime fan insecurity", where since it's from Japan and is best known as an anime there's this apologetic tone, assuming the reader is gonna automatically look down on this kind of story.
Basically, all that should absolutely be cut.
I wanted to say it so I thank you profusely. All of it should go.
Discord: Waido X 255#1372 If you cant contact me on TV Tropes do it here.From Film.Maniac Cop 2, this is a bit gushy on the action side.
- Man on Fire: The climax centers around a deliciously dangerous-looking set of stunts where Cordell is set on fire and just keeps on killing everyone anyway, eventually crashing through a wall and falling through the roof of a van, which promply explodes. The best part is just how long it goes on for - they must have set that poor stuntman on fire about ten times to get that many shots.
That whole trope is under repair at the moment anyway, so it might be best to cut it now and then reconsider if it works later.
Said repair effort actually finished last night.
Anyways, it's gone.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportThe recap page and YMMV for this one episode of The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius seem to devote a lot of time to gushing about how hot the villainess is. I get that she's supposed to be attractive, but it mentions stuff like "smoldering bedroom eyes", "toned, curvy rump", and "breathy voice that'd leave just about anyone quivering", which feels kinda... one-handed to me, especially since the page doesn't have many tropes that don't relate to her in some way (in fact, all the tropes on the YMMV page are about her). I haven't seen that episode in a long time, so I can't do much about that last bit, but would it be possible to tone down the gushing just a little?
"Take me down to the retro city where the carts are clean and the sprites are pretty." -A Youtube userCan someone check over The Patrick Star Show? I've recently become a fan of it and have added a bunch of entries since the show gets a lot of backlash online, but I want to get someone else's opinion to make sure it comes off as fair and isn't overly gushy.
The things in my dreams wish they could chase me!You cant have us check every single entry. You have to show us a manageable number of entries you fear are not kosher.
Discord: Waido X 255#1372 If you cant contact me on TV Tropes do it here.FWIW, the character's attractiveness is her main trait, but some of that romance novel talk can be dialed down.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.This was added to the page for Cassette Beasts a few hours ago. While I agree that various aspects of them game seem to be a response to criticisms that Mons-related media often gets, the entry still comes across to me as overly-gushy in some ways.
- Reconstruction: Cassette Beasts seeks to revitalize the Mons genre by redesigning around all the problems that come with Fridge-Horroring these adorably fluffy creatures. Rather than capturing monsters, brainwashing them to love you the moment they're enslaved, and forcing them to fight one another for your reputation, you're using your supernatural recorders to copy the data of monsters and turn into them yourselves, typically for self-defense from said fairly-aggressive monsters. You're allowed to casually store, trade away, or even destroy your unneeded monster cassettes, because you're not actually enslaving living beings, but making mindless copies of their data to use as your weapons and armor. 'Trainers' have a far more active role, as their own strengths fuel the respective strengths of their monster forms, they need to put themselves directly in harm's way to 'catch' a monster, and they take damage if they've pushed their monsters' health past the breaking point. The humans' unique strength is that they can combine with other trainers to make stronger monsters. The wackiness needed to live in a magical monster-infested world is thoroughly addressed, as the entire human cast has no idea why they're stuck in another world or how any of this wackiness functions, only that they have to make the most of it and harness what they can experiment with. Most of the loot you acquire from fighting monsters is literally trash washed up from other worlds, the kind of stuff you'd expect curious animals to hold onto - but in a world that's cut off from industry, bartering for raw materials like these is a necessity.
...Doesn't there need to be a Deconstruction in place first?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessYep, that's the whole point. I don't see that here.
Honestly, "reconstruction" has always been very confusing to me and I think it's being misused in general, but... yeah cut that.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI cut it.
Honestly, that entry sounds more like Deconstruction than anything (mainly with how it addresses common criticisms on monster catching games).
No, a reconstruction doesn't need a deconstruction. A deconstruction is "this is what happens for real when you play the trope completely straight". A reconstruction is "this is what you'd have to do in order to get the genre or trope to occur realistically in the way it's usually portrayed". I don't think the example should have been deleted as it read like, "this is what the game did to make the mons genre as friendly as it's normally presented, and without any Fridge Horror."
Bigotry will NEVER be welcome on TV Tropes.
From Reconstruction.
So yes a deconstruction is expected to have occurred first. Hence "re"construction. You can't rebuild what was never taken apart.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessIf the deconstruction has to be internal to the work though, then reconstruction is redundant with Decon-Recon Switch.
Bigotry will NEVER be welcome on TV Tropes.That's a completely normal mistake completely normal guy. LOL
But seriously we should check that out. If there's redundancy or misuse.
Discord: Waido X 255#1372 If you cant contact me on TV Tropes do it here.
Woobie.Doctor Who seems excessively gushy (in the "fawning over the poor cinnamon roll" way), with long walls of text and natter everywhere.
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