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Oh, and if you're wondering, non-queer folks are welcome too.

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Icarael is All Elite from The Taguig Sprawl Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
is All Elite
#228851: Nov 1st 2019 at 9:08:53 PM

[up][up][up] It's "both sides (genders) are equally attractive". How is that not a Golden Mean Fallacy?

Edited by Icarael on Nov 1st 2019 at 4:09:24 PM

"Stealing is a crime and drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it’s like basically doing a good."
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#228852: Nov 1st 2019 at 9:14:44 PM

Because the Golden Mean Fallacy is "the position in the middle is correct by virtue of being in the middle".

Are you bi because you conceive of it as halfway between gay and straight, and therefore superior to both?

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Icarael is All Elite from The Taguig Sprawl Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
is All Elite
#228853: Nov 1st 2019 at 10:02:39 PM

[up] It's the best name for what I feel (attraction to male-shaped and female-shaped individuals) so... I guess? It's superior in that it makes more sense as a label for what I am than "gay" or "straight".

Edited by Icarael on Nov 2nd 2019 at 7:25:47 PM

"Stealing is a crime and drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it’s like basically doing a good."
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#228854: Nov 1st 2019 at 10:07:47 PM

That sounds less like the golden mean fallacy and more like just... you being bi.

Having an identity isn't a fallacy.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#228855: Nov 1st 2019 at 10:40:51 PM

I've just read through Kyou Kara Yonshimai. It's about a family of four sibling whose second sibling (Kashiwa) has just come out as a trans woman. The relationship between Kashiwa and her girlfriend Kasumi is extremely heartwarming and easily the highlight of the manga. That said, everything aside from their relationship ranges from mediocre to terrible. Kasumi also says some questionable things in volume 3, partially because of faulty fanslation.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Nov 1st 2019 at 10:41:11 AM

Where there's life, there's hope.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#228856: Nov 4th 2019 at 1:22:28 AM

So today marks four years since I first really came out to people I know IRL. And it still feels like I've made no progress at all.

Dammit brain.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Bisected8 Tief girl with eartude from Her Hackette Cave (Primordial Chaos) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Tief girl with eartude
#228857: Nov 4th 2019 at 2:09:20 AM

One might say that being out as trans for four years is progress.

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kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#228858: Nov 6th 2019 at 10:01:05 PM

Blech. I was skimming through some new updates on a webcomic I used to read today and stumbled on a really transphobic comic. And while I didn't go looking for confirmation, I read fairly believably that the artist is also pretty homophobic.

I already knew the artist was pretty conservative and kind of an asshole—which is why I don't read the comics regularly any more—so I'm not exactly surprised, but even so... his comics were really important to me when I was a kid, and helped to form a lot of the way I write and make comics now. I shouldn't let the creator affect that, but it still sucks knowing he's that level of shitty.

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CustardAndPie Oh Captain!~ from in a tank 'bout to steal yo girl Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Remembering what Mama said
Oh Captain!~
#228859: Nov 8th 2019 at 6:40:26 PM

Just when I thought I was comfortable in my Kinsey 5 bisexuality/homoflexibility/whatever the fuck my brand of bisexuality is, I start doubting myself again and wonder if I'm actually a lesbian. God fucking damn it.

Hey how you doing well I'm doing just fine I lied I'm dying inside
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#228860: Nov 9th 2019 at 7:45:11 AM

Curiosity is natural, whatever feels good for you


So I've recently moved into a new flat with completely new flatmates and I have a bit of an issue. I'm mostly out (about being into dudes - nobody IRL knows the possible nonbinary-ness yet) but I've met enough homophobic people that I tend to scope people out before casually dropping it in. Except with these new flatmates, we started talking about relationships before I was comfortable so I just used gender neutral terms and they immediately assumed female/straight and now it's been so many times coming out would require actively correcting them and I'm still not 100% sure they're cool. I guess at least it's just awkward but it is pretty damn awkward now.

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#228861: Nov 10th 2019 at 1:44:31 AM

Bashing my head against electro clinics not putting their prices up on their websites again.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
pikachu17 He-Who-Must-Be-Named from Somewhere Over the Rainbow Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
He-Who-Must-Be-Named
#228862: Nov 15th 2019 at 2:42:30 PM

^^ Suggest a movie/tv series with a LGBT character in it, but isn't LGBT focused enough that they'll instantly assume you're LGBT. Then get into a discussion about the characters. If they are homophobic, they will probably say something homophobic about the character.

Can't guarantee this works, haven't done it myself.


I think of myself as bi, but I'm not entirely certain I'm into dudes.

Edited by pikachu17 on Nov 15th 2019 at 2:44:20 AM

17 pikachus all in a row.
JTTWlover Heya there! I'm West. from Chinese Heaven Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Heya there! I'm West.
#228863: Nov 16th 2019 at 12:17:12 AM

Hi I’m Ace.

Heteroromantic Asexual, to be complete.

Never understood why would you put a thing in your vagina.

If there's a book you want to read, but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it. Toni Morrison
Yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#228864: Nov 28th 2019 at 1:56:31 PM

So I've been watching a recent anime on Netflix called Magmell which has mostly been a pretty good show. Unfortunately it turns out episode 9 has a pretty bad transphobic scene. A hairdresser with an unflattering design is immediately met with "is it a monster?!" before another character (who knows the hairdresser) introduces them as a male, before the hairdresser says "I'm a she, remember?"

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#228865: Dec 11th 2019 at 12:12:56 PM

[up][up] Vaginismus sufferer here, I can empathize with at least one part of where you're at. I vaguely understand in theory "why would you put a thing in your vagina". In practice? No can do, the sensations are VERY annoying.

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#228866: Dec 19th 2019 at 7:21:26 AM

So JK Rowling dropped all pretence of not being a raging FART.

On the plus side transphobia is now properly recognised as a form of employment discrimination in the UK.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#228867: Dec 22nd 2019 at 8:55:59 AM

Looks like it's causing a few Broken Pedestals for trans fans of Rowling's (or parents of, in one case)

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 22nd 2019 at 10:06:59 AM

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#228868: Dec 22nd 2019 at 8:58:50 AM

Yep. It’s a situation where a lot of trans people have noticed this trend in behavior over the past few years, but the vast majority of people either weren’t aware or didn’t believe it.

But this whole thing makes it impossible for people to ignore.

Bisected8 Tief girl with eartude from Her Hackette Cave (Primordial Chaos) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Tief girl with eartude
#228869: Dec 22nd 2019 at 3:38:32 PM

I'm stressed out over how many people are defending her.

Then again, the same thing happened with Orson Scott Card.

In lighter news, I've started streaming Metroid games on Twitch.

It's having side effects.

Edited by Bisected8 on Dec 22nd 2019 at 11:42:05 AM

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
CustardAndPie Oh Captain!~ from in a tank 'bout to steal yo girl Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Remembering what Mama said
Oh Captain!~
#228871: Dec 27th 2019 at 12:06:26 AM

So my uncle and step-aunt visited us yesterday and they dragged my cousin J along. Without going into detail, I fucking hate J because he tried to molest me multiple times as a child. His presence alone triggered the fuck outta me and I started getting invasive thoughts that I was homoflexible because of what he did to me. I know it's not true because sexual orientation doesn't work that way, but it still bugs me. Thankfully he's gone now and my step-aunt's going to kick his ass after I told her the full story.

PS: J is also a homophobic piece of shit, which doesn't help at all.

Hey how you doing well I'm doing just fine I lied I'm dying inside
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#228872: Dec 27th 2019 at 1:25:20 AM

-hugs-

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#228874: Dec 29th 2019 at 3:44:18 AM

-hug-

"Yup. That tasted purple."
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#228875: Dec 29th 2019 at 4:58:44 AM

*also hugs*

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