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"I wasn't expecting someone so insane to sound so logical."
Francis about Nate, Big Nate, 8/4/2000

Sometimes even the most unlikely of characters may make valid arguments or comments about something. This is sometimes referred to as a "stopped clock" moment.note  They can on occasion invoke a "Not So Different" Remark when the point they're making is about how similar they and another character are to each other.

Related to Cassandra Truth and Ignored Expert.

  • Actually a Good Idea: When an idea is admitted In-Universe to be a good one.
  • Armor-Piercing Question: A well-placed question presents a point that gets someone to reconsider their entire position.
  • Armor-Piercing Response: Same as the above but for a well-placed answer.
  • Both Sides Have a Point: When this is the case, it'll be an exercise for the audience to pick one side.
  • Crying Wolf: The liar is telling the truth this time; too bad their past lies have ruined their credibility.
  • The Cuckoolander Was Right: A character who is bizarre and estranged can surprise others with their valid points.
  • The Dissenter Is Always Right: The one character who goes against the herd turns out to be correct.
  • Don't Shoot the Message: Just because a point is presented ineptly doesn't make it necessarily invalid.
  • Dumbass Has a Point: The usual obtuseness of that person makes the intelligent or rational point unexpected.
  • The Extremist Was Right: Overlaps with Villain Has a Point by taking care of the Anti-Villain side of things; specifically, the rare occasions where they're actually successful in achieving good.
  • Glad I Thought of It: Dismissing someone else's point / idea before claiming it as their own.
  • Hypocrite Has a Point: A character judges someone else for doing something they're also guilty of, but that doesn't mean they're wrong about the person they're judging. (A hypocrite with enough self awareness may argue “At Least I Admit It!”)
  • The Idealist Was Right: A character who is scoffed at for being naive ends up having the best solution.
  • Informed Wrongness: The story tells us a character is wrong, but the audience thinks he has a point.
  • Jerkass Has a Point: While this individual could phrase their assertions in less offensive ways, said assertions are actually accurate.
  • Kid Has a Point: Children are usually ignorant, inexperienced, and impulsive, and it's all the more surprising when they blurt out something that's an actually useful insight.
  • No Mere Windmill: A character says something seemingly harmless is actually a threat, and they are proven right.
  • Properly Paranoid: A character's paranoia is proven true.
  • Right for the Wrong Reasons: Someone manages to use flawed logic or facts to come to the correct conclusion.
  • Simple-Minded Wisdom: Someone dismissed as "simple" or even outright stupid shows insight or good sense.
  • Strawman Has a Point: The fictional opposition to the author's ideology has some actual good arguments. The logical extreme of this, when intentional, is the Iron Man, which, while still a puppet, is as tough and hard to defeat as the author could make it.
  • Touché: Conceding that the other side has made a good point.
  • Villain Has a Point: The essential component of any good Break Them by Talking or Trolling tactics (when there's something wrong about what the heroes do), it is also vital to the Anti-Villain and all sorts of extremists (when there's something right about what the villain does).
  • Whoopi Epiphany Speech: A character from an underprivileged group or background says something profoundly wise or insightful, often impressing characters who hold higher status.
  • Wisdom from the Gutter: That hobo you bumped to some time ago might've said something relevant and helpful.