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Sometimes even the most unlikely of characters may make valid arguments or comments about something. This is sometimes referred to as a "stopped clock" moment.note  They can on occasion invoke a "Not So Different" Remark when the point they're making is about how similar they and another character are to each other.

Related to Cassandra Truth and Ignored Expert.


  • Actually a Good Idea: When an idea is admitted In-Universe to be a good one.
  • Both Sides Have a Point: When this is the case, it'll be an exercise for the audience to pick one side.
  • The Cuckoolander Was Right: A character who is bizarre and estranged can surprise others with their valid points.
  • The Dissenter Is Always Right: The one character who goes against the herd turns out to be correct.
  • Dumbass Has a Point: The usual obtuseness of that person makes the intelligent or rational point unexpected.
  • The Extremist Was Right: Overlaps with Villain Has a Point by taking care of the Anti-Villain side of things; specifically, the rare occasions where they're actually successful in achieving good.
  • Glad I Thought of It: Dismissing someone else's point / idea before claiming it as their own.
  • Hypocrite Has a Point: A character judges someone else for doing something they're also guilty of, but that doesn't mean they're wrong about the person they're judging.
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  • The Idealist Was Right: A character who is scoffed at for being naive ends up having the best solution.
  • Jerkass Has a Point: While this individual could phrase their assertions in less offensive ways, said assertions are actually accurate.
  • Kid Has a Point: Children are usually ignorant, inexperienced, and impulsive, and it's all the more surprising when they blurt out something that's an actually useful insight.
  • No Mere Windmill: A character says something seemingly harmless is actually a threat, and they are proven right.
  • Properly Paranoid: A character's paranoia is proven true.
  • Simple-Minded Wisdom: Someone dismissed as "simple" or even outright stupid shows insight or good sense.
  • Strawman Has a Point: The fictional opposition to the author's ideology has some actual good arguments. The logical extreme of this, when intentional, is the Iron Man, which, while still a puppet, is as tough and hard to defeat as the author could make it.
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  • Villain Has a Point: The essential component of any good Break Them by Talking or Trolling tactics (when there's something wrong about what the heroes do), it is also vital to the Anti-Villain and all sorts of extremists (when there's something right about what the villain does).
  • Whoopi Epiphany Speech: A character from an underprivileged group or background says something profoundly wise or insightful, often impressing characters who hold higher status.
  • Wisdom from the Gutter: That hobo you bumped to some time ago might've said something relevant and helpful.