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openSuper Weight
Is Super Weight a trope that's normally listed in works? Because I don't ever recall seeing it listed in a work page. I haven't done a wick check tbh, but the whole trope looks a little odd to me.
Edited by LermisopenPage for a possibly lost work Web Original
Mills College Anime Club links to a blank page, and the author describes it as an Old Shame that they would rather forget. There is a link to a review, though it is paywalled (at 226 pages, it may well be that the review still carries the original).
On top of the original being deleted, many edits are from obvious haters. I could remove the worst, but I am not sure if it worth the effort.
Should this article be moved to Darth, or even cut entirely?
openHello?
Um, Hi i'm new here and I have several questions about how all this works? Could someone please help me?
openRegarding backseat moderating
What's this very wiki's stance on backseat moderating? I remember one troper who got banned for what I can describe as that, aside from overall rudeness, on TLP and perhaps the whole wiki. How severe is the punishment against backseat moderating?
To be personally honest, I still have a lingering saltiness against this troper, after they've "answered" my query, but given that they're banned for a long time now, I'll drop the saltiness.
In quick hindsight, I just realize that this is not the proper time to ask this as this wiki only has a handful of active mods, and some tropers are volunteering for hollering and cleanups. I guess I'm just curious and all regarding backseat moderating.
Edited by alnair20aug93openQuestionable Deletion?
On saw this paragraph was deleted by Johnny Be Bad on Big Mouth with no edit reason.
- Incels and the Men Going Their Own Way movement are shown as the manipulative hate groups that they are, preying on ignorant and impressionable young white men and middle school boys and showing them self victimizing techniques and later using their "victim" status as an excuse to blame all of their problems on women, minorities and LGBT+ people.
Because these type of examples usually cause a bit of a conflict, i wonder if it's a justifiable deletion.
openErotic work page -safe to create
I was going to create a page for erotic comic book Cheat(er) Code; I’m familiar with the wiki’s rules about lewd content, the work is not primarily pornographic as it does have a prominent story and plot (the sex scenes are explicit however), do I submit this work for consideration for a page to the 5P or do I just create the page first and then have them look at it?
openThread for helping avoid plagiarism
Is their a thread for helping to avoid plagiarism. I'm making pages for books I've read and want to avoid it as well I am reprhasing and reworking. I'm not sure how much similarity their can be ?
openWikipedia Plagiarism
Recap.Lifted is copy-pasted straight from Wikipedia's page on the film.
openLots of rewrites at the Greek Mythology pages
This page has had a lot of edits recently, and I'm a bit worried about this one. If three different myths say that it was rape, then it seems like just removing stuff because one interpretation says differently is overkill.
Edited by MichaelKatsuroopenImage links problem
I tried to post some image links but they don't work and I'm pretty sure they worked fine when I just posted them. Is this related to the fact I used Discord? If you wanna see, go on Baby Planet (the 4 examples on the bottom).
openSplitting a work's trope section
So Gungrave is basically two pages in 1 so I plan to split the anime into its own page. But there's a section that includes tropes from the anime and the games. Should I should combine that with the game only tropes? Normally that stuff would go in franchise but I don't think this work qualifies as there aren't three different pages in different mediums.
Edited by MacronNotesopenCleanup needed on The Mask cartoon pages
Domino 710 added a whole bunch of really long and grammatically-dubious passages to pages related to the animated adaptation of ''The Mask''. For example:
“The Mask can be too strong towards any girls he comes across such as putting himself in a position with a girl so that he can kiss them only they are put off by him which makes him like Stanley unlucky with any woman he comes across but however he does get lucky later on due to the fact that he’s polite, kind and very sweet as well which makes most of the girls who are put off by him to be attracted to him.”
You’ll notice how it is just one run-on sentence with very strange wording. Stuff like this is all over the place, so I’d like to request some help in fixing it all up. Luckily, some tropers have already started (thanks for that!), but there’s still much more that needs to be done.
Edited by Loopytires55openPrincessPandaTrope being rude
So here's the long and short of it: There are several tropers that keep making errors in their editing. I keep a list of those tropers and correct their errors when they occur. Now one of those tropers, PrincessPandaTrope, said in an edit reason that "To be honest, being heavily followed and monitored by that Michael Katsuro person feels a lot being stalked."
I get that Princess couldn't know that she's just one of several tropers whose errors I keep fixing. And I get that somebody checking all your edits can feel a bit stalkery. Especially today, since due to chance we both were online at the same time and I made sure to fix her errors soon after she made them. (When I go online, I always make sure to immediately check the edit histories of all the problematic tropers I keep track on. There's always a risk that an edit I'm fixing is very recent. I know that might feel stalkery, but all I'm doing is checking for errors where I know they're liable to be.)
But from my POV, if somebody has made a lot of errors in the past then yes, I'll check if they've made more errors. (They usually have.) And if I see an error, then yes, I'll correct it. Is it really a bad thing to fix things that need fixing?
Also, if my checking and fixing her errors is a bad thing, then it's best to say so either in a PM or in Ask The Tropers. Not in Edit Reasons, because that's not really an edit reason. And this isn't the first time she's attacked people in Edit Reasons, so she's already been made aware of this problem.
I want to stress that the vast majority of the time when I fix errors from one of the tropers I check regularly, I don't bother them with a notifier or with any other PM. I don't start an ATT thread either. All I do is see an error, and quietly fix it.
Edited by MichaelKatsuroopenQuestion about a potential Kick the X cleanup thread
So, I discovered that the Kick the Dog, Kick The Son Of A Bitch, Pet the Dog and The Dog Bites Back has been prone to being misused in some places. For example, The Dog Bites Back is meant for an underling who suddenly turns on their superior for all the abuse they've suffered. However, it has been used in cases where the heroes and/or innocent characters finally had enough of what their tormentors have done (i.e. Lucy towards Tomoo in Elfen Lied) and proceed to get revenge on them, so those don't count.
That said, I have a question on what to do here: should we create a potential "Kick the X" cleanup thread on the Trope Talk forums if it's possible?
Edited by gjjonesopenFamily Guy memes with no context
Memes.Family Guy is full of random quotes with no context, just the names of the episodes it comes from. Do they count as ZCE's?
openHow do I upload video files?
This sounds like a rather basic question for me to ask, but how would I upload Youtube clips as video examples? On PC, there isn't an option for me to download, and on a mobile device, downloading videos comes with a price tag. Is there another website I can take sources from if I want to create a video example?
Edited by TheGrayShadowopenPop-Culture Isolation "general examples"
Per this ATT, examples on Pop-Culture Isolation that referred to whole genres were commented-out because supposedly Examples Are Not General requires each example to refer to exactly one work. But Pop-Culture Isolation is an audience reaction, not a trope, and the description says "celebrities, music genres, media or events are huge and significant in one subculture or ethnic group," so it's clearly meant to include broad trends. I suggest the "general" examples which have been commented-out be unhidden, since there's no efficient way to make them refer to exactly one work without losing information.
openAvoiding an edit war.
On Happiest Season I found a Unintentionally Unsympathetic that didn't really explain how a character is mean to be sympathetic:
- Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Harper. She is understandably afraid to come out to her conservative small-town family, but it doesn't excuse that she lied to Abby about being out and continuously acted in a way that made Abby uncomfortable.
- There's also the unambiguously cruel way in which Harper outed Riley, which is largely brushed off but which other, thematically similar films have treated as a Moral Event Horizon.
- And the fact that she smashed Jane's painting.
So I took it to the clean up thread here. And most seemed to agree with me. So I cut it. However another troper York back added it here with no new additions, except a link to an un related site and the reason of "after the movie came out, the points made in Fan-Preferred Couple and Unintentionally Unsympathetic have been discussed on social media and by Aubrey Plaza herself, so these entries have been added back in." Which I don't thinks is allowed. They also unhid a Zero Context example I hid for Fan-Preferred Couple, which from my research I am not sure qualifies, without new info. Then whoseliner deleted the second bullet here
I am trying to avoid an Edit war.
Edited by BullmanopenPoorlyDisguisedPilot misuse?
- Star Wars: The Clone Wars had a couple, though it's not as evident as some given the show's anthology-style format.
- "The Gathering" through "A Necessary Bond" involve Ahsoka meeting a diverse group of young Jedi in training and helping them learn the ropes. None of the characters get another speaking role in the series, and it's very easy to imagine a TV show around them. One has to wonder if the involved Inferred Holocaust was a factor...
- "Secret Weapons" through "Point of No Return" is a completely self-contained mini-arc where the only main character to be present is R2, with everyone else being a crew of naturally kid-appealing droids and their commander.
Does Poorly Disguised Pilot require they produce the followup or Word of God they planned to? It seems speculative otherwise.
Once again, on Characters.Ys VIII Lacrimosa Of Dana. I saw four examples of Child Soldier used for Ricotta, Reja, Quina, and the general Castaway Village folder. However, given that the trope talks about literal child soldiers trained and drafted for war, these examples on the character page are really overstretching it, because not only are these child characters not actually soldiers to begin with, but outside of Beast Raids as support skills, Reja and Quina don't get actively involved in fights, and Ricotta is actually a Jungle Princess who fights for survival rather than war.
Edited by DivineFlame100