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openFan-made contents on moment subpages.
Putting fan-made content on moment subpages (funny, nightmare fuel, heart warming) is indeed forbidden right? A few weeks ago, I went on a little edit-spree to remove fan-contents from popular works' sub-pages. But Mrs Doubtfire 1200 added back a folder I deleted on Homestuck's Tearjerker page with an edit reason saying "Without permission, you can’t just fucking delete whole folders.". I'd like to know who is in the right between me and her.
Edited by jOSEFdelavilleopenCharacter vs Story Tropes
Is Colour-Coded Characters a story trope or character trope? It reads to me like a story trope, but I regularly see it on character pages. Should it being on the work page or the character pages?
Edited by WyldchyldopenDethroningMoment.WesternAnimation Western Animation
The “Other” examples are on DethroningMoment.Western Animation K To Z. Shouldn’t they be on the main DethroningMoment.Western Animation page instead?
resolved Expy subtrope character limit Question Western Animation
I know that Expy is limited to only be of one character. My question is does this limit also apply to expy subtropes, mainly the more specific subtropes like Superman Substitute and Spider-Man Send-Up.
A good example would be Western Animation/Invincible, where the titular character has a mixture of both tropes. Although hes more Superboy than Superman, he is still a Flying Brick with an origin as a human/alien hyrbid and The Paragon characteristics. But he also has similarities to Spidey, in having secret identity problems specifically romance problems, juggling hero life and normal teenage life, as well as the whole With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility.
So is there is a limit to the subtropes similar to the main Expy trope and if yes then which trope would take priority in an example like this?
Edited by NejiiuynopenPolicy on images and folders
Hi. I've seen somewhere that images shouldn't be put into folders. However, I couldn't find anything about this in Administrivia. Could somebody please clarify what the official policy is?
openEst Machina
I found another work I'm not sure was ever published. Est Machina says you have to PM the author if you want to read it, and I can't find it via Google. Should I cut list this one as well?
openBreaking Point tv show - real life example of Critical Existence Failure? Live Action TV
There was a documentary tv show named Breaking Point airing on Discovery Channel. It was about two guys dishing out abuse at various devices to see when would the device break. Does this have anything to do with the Critical Existence Failure trope?
openTrope Description Rewritten
I was checking Succubus in Love and I noticed that a large part of it's description has been rewritten with the exception of the last two paragraphs and was done by lalaTKG.
I know that this kind of large edit isn't allowed without going through the proper channel.
So im wondering if it should be reverted?
openPolicy on what goes on a Main Page of a work
Umm, is there a official policy explaining what goes on a main page of a work? Asking to see what the actual rules are. Not sure if I've asked this before but asking anyway.
Kinda related to Troperweatherly 23 who just recently got suspended over edit warring.
Don't know if this is okay but in light of their recent suspension, I thought this might be worth asking.
One of the common edits that I've noticed Troperweatherly 23 repeatedly do is remove certain tropes from the main pages of works on the grounds that they belong in character/recap pages, or are already covered in said pages. One such incident was even actually asked about in ATT from a quick search I did.
It also appears that these certain tropes being added by other users to the main pages of works comes off as one of their pet peeves if certain edits and reasons of theirs are to be inferred. This apparently got to the point that they added some hidden disclaimers at the top of Helluva Boss main page basically telling people to stop with the reason: "It was starting to annoy me how people keep doing this, so putting this here to clarify things."
Not sure if adding said disclaimers apparently on the grounds that they were getting annoyed was okay but that's besides the point.
The point though is I kinda want to know if there's an official policy that actually corroborates with what they've been doing. Kinda want to know especially as I've noticed that there are several work pages that don't follow this policy that they've apparently been strictly implementing.
Edited by ElfkaiseropenSheruru
Sheruru has some issues with grammar, particularly when it comes to tense. I just sent them a notifier because I want them to try out the grammar thread, but they're making a lot of edits at a pretty fast pace (with a lot of Serial Tweaking) so I figured I'd bring it up here as well.
Also feels worth noting that almost all of these edits relate to Chinese censorship, particularly the Banned in China trivia item. I assume they're from the country and are adding information, but combined with the grammar, some Bold Inflation issues, and adding "unconfirmed" examples, these examples may need feedback. Hopefully they'll go to the English thread for improvement.
Edited by mightymewtronopenEdit War
Troperweatherly23 and Alexandra2361 have been edit warring in the Helluva Boss characters page. Alexandra has deleted Satellite Character without reason twice while Tropeweatherly added it back both times with an edit reason.
Edited by ChytusopenCutting pages
I'm having trouble remembering where to ask how to get pages cut.
For Want Of A Nail has an explicit No Real Life Examples Please! request. But linked off its literature page is Dirty Laundry An Alternate1980s, which is all real life examples. (Yes, examples that affected media in some cases, but still RL examples.) Interestingly, it's not on the For Want of a Nail Index.
History shows it was created in 2018.
openQuestions about trope examples & splitting a page
Some background info: Pinball.Black Knight currently covers three separate pinball games: Black Knight (1980), Black Knight 2000, and Black Knight: Sword of Rage. I've been strongly considering splitting the page for a variety of reasons, but the biggest roadblock is that there aren't a lot of tropes specific to the first game. 2000 and Sword of Rage could easily get their own pages, but the 1980 game only has five tropes at present, and I'm struggling to think of many more that could be added. While this is technically acceptable (the policy is that work pages need 3 tropes as an absolute minimum), I generally try to ensure that works have at least 10 trope examples before giving them their own page (going by the unofficial standard set by Administrivia.Works Needing Tropes). Even adding tropes that are listed under the series-wide folder but have a bullet point pertaining specifically to the first game, I don't think it would reach 10 examples.
Should I split the first game into Pinball.Black Knight 1980 regardless? I'm not sure how serious the unofficial 10 example "requirement" is, but I don't want it consigned to Works Needing Tropes right off the bat.
openREPORT TROPER + PLAGIARISM ALERT
Yeah, about that title...
A troper by the name verissimoallan made a ton of Creator pages for Brazilian / South American actors and celebrities, with his (?) numerous edits dating back to circa 2019. Many of these are stub-pages, although some of his pages do have content ... which is fine and dandy, we all love South America, don't we? Yes, we do...
But what we don't love, is PLAGIARISM, and that's precisely what verissi had done. Here be a checklist:
- Flávia Alessandra — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Monique Alfradique — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Juliana Alves — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Giovanna Antonelli — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Taís Araújo — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Viviane Araújo — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Karina Bacchi — Content stolen from the Other Wiki, also note that verissi stole the original wiki image as well before another troper replaced it.
- Gracyanne Barbosa — Content stolen from the Other Wiki; again, the original image was stolen from wikipedia as well before someone else replaced it.
- Marina Ruy Barbosa — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Liliana Castro — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Bianca Comparato — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki, although the image was slightly cropped in this case
- Carolina Dieckmann — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki. The Creator page has an additional line added by someone else, however.
- Isabelle Drummond — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Lima Duarte — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Priscila Fantin — Content stolen from the Other Wiki
- Vanessa Giácomo — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Reynaldo Gianecchini — Content stolen from the Other Wiki. The edit history shows that the image (apparently from some film festival) was stolen from the same source too, but the troper used the uncropped version instead.
- Ingrid Guimarães — Content stolen from the Other Wiki
- Giselle Itié — Content stolen from the Other Wiki
- Fabiana Karla — Content stolen from the Other Wiki
- A Grande Familia — The lengthy synopsis of the entire show is lifted from The Other Wiki. And it has two tropes.
- José Mojica Marins — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Bruna Marquezine — Content stolen from the Other Wiki
- Grazi Massafera — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Agatha Moreira — Content stolen from the Other Wiki
- Juliana Paes — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Mariana Ximenes — Content stolen from the Other Wiki
- Fernanda Paes Leme — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Isabella Santoni— Content stolen from the Other Wiki
- Tatá Werneck — Content and Image stolen from the Other Wiki
- Gabriela (2012) — show's synopsis is lifted from The Other Wiki, save for one sentence
Note that ALL those pages, according to the edit history (whose figures are in the single digits, save for some clean-up efforts and tweaking), are all made by the same user, (check his (?) edit history here) with some of the plagiarized content dating back to 2018.
Alinne Moraes narrowly avoided plagiarism because when verissi made her page in late-2019, he literally slapped entire paragraphs of text from the actress' wikipedia page onto her trope page. But since then two other tropers made additional edits and removed whatever plagiarism traces.
Yep, there's a content thief hanging out in this website, and they have been doing this ever since 2018. Thought we wouldn't catch it, we did.
You're welcome, mods.
Edited by RobertTYL
Epithet Erased is a web series based on a role-playing session called Anime Campaign. Since AC spoils the entirety of EE while being in a very not-entertaining format, its creator has taken it off Twitch and wants those who have seen it to not spread spoilers.
- Since Anime Campaign has been taken down, should it still have a page? It's only available in unofficial Keep Circulating the Tapes format, and Brendan Blaber would prefer that people don't watch it until after Epithet Erased is over. However, there might be unofficial uploads floating around the internet, so it is still publicly available. I know that The Fic May Be Yours, but the Trope Page Is Ours says that we don't take down pages on creator request, so I'm guessing that's probably a no.
- Should we have an "absolutely no Anime Campaign spoilers" rule on the Epithet Erased pages? So far, I've seen one spoiler on WMG.Epithet Erased. The "robot girl"'s name is also spoiled in a few places, though this could be an exception to the rule since the show's creator has also used that name in reference to her EE version.
Edited by Zuxtron