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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#351: Mar 19th 2012 at 8:46:02 PM

OK need a someone to add these to the Space Beasts page

Full-Boar Action: Bruno and his son Oinker are both legendary boar humanimal warriors.

Our Zombies are different: In the Battle with B.A.A.W. arc the animal rights activists use undead humanimals called Shadows to do their dirty work. Shadows are a unique twist on what we commonly think of zombies, for one thing they don't look like rotting corpses at all. They look like humanimals of extraordinary beauty, the only way you can tell they are dead is they lack breath and a pulse, they are freezing cold to the touch, and they have a horrible death like stench. Another thing that separates them from typical undead is they can become Living Shadows and travel in that form at extremely fast rates, They don't really need to eat or drink but do so out of habit, (Unlike typical zombies they eat normal food but they seem immune to things that would normally poison Humanimals like when Snowy the shadow polar bear eats chocolate) They also seem to have an extremely strong sex drive, Bianca the shadow horse rapes a B.A.A.W. underling and Uni the shadow unicorn tries to have her way with Ichabod, finally unlike typical zombies shadows of minds and wills of their own, they hate B.A.A.W. for bringing them back to life and forcing them to do their dirty work so they try to plot against the organization to help the heroes win.

Sickeningly Sweethearts: Jim and Jordan the red squirrel couple are perhaps the most nauseatingly lovey dovey couple in the series (They never seem to argue even once!) But most of the couple can have their sickeningly sweet moments to. After Ichabod rescues Marzipan, Rook and five other humanimals from Castle Vortex, the two sing a sickeningly sweet love song and it is implied they were singing that song for the entire ride to Earth

edited 19th Mar '12 9:48:37 PM by Rockhopper

Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#352: Mar 19th 2012 at 10:01:55 PM

OK...Just a few more tropes to put in the Space Beasts page

Cute Kitten: Marzipan knows darn well about this trope and uses it to get her way. Whenever she wants Ichabod to do something she acts like an adorable kitty, purring, meowing, batting at a ball of yarn until Ichabod relents from the cuteness overload. She also used it when she was being held prisoner by Falco and his wicked Uncle Skeksis, it seems to work even better on Falco due to the fact he was suffering from Lima Syndrome.

Pretty Boy: M Newkirk (An Expyon N Harmonia from Pokemon M's full name is Mutualism Newkirk) Is the leader of B.A.A.W. He is pretty much the same as N only more ditzy and even more delusional (He tries to make the entire Earthport Population vegan which nearly caused the carnivore humanimals to starve to death. He is in love with Snowy the shadow polar bear but Snowy is in love with Ebony the shadow black bear, M doesn't even seem to notice that Bianca the shadow Andalusian horse is in love with him (It is implied that he overlooks her in favor of Snowy because he is convinced wild animals are superior to domesticated animals,) though at the end of the saga, M realizes how wrong he was and comes to returns Bianca's love.

Ethical Slut: Kate Punda-Milla the Zebra Girl, is only kind of this...She was infamous on her home world for being a mare who Really gets around but has since come to settle down for the family life with Ichabod's half uncle Thomas Lanky, However she is very helpful to the crew as she is pretty much a sexual encyclopedia and gives Bill and Samantha advice on how to safely make love and Ichabod and Marzipan ideas on how to satisfy their libidos (Tickling fetishes, spanking) Without losing their virginity.

What Measure Is a Non-Cute?: Averted. While many of the main cast are typically cuddly creatures like household pets Marzipan the Ragdoll Cat and Quaxo the Tabby Cat, woodland creatures like Jim the squirrel and Rook the fox, farm animals like Bill the Bull, or charismatic megafauna like Kong the Gorilla and Kate the Zebra, there are also many heroic humanimals whose species are typical cast in a villainous role like Beauty Cherrystone (Cobra Girl), Iris Ogg (Bat Woman) even a heroic cockroach named Sir Nrrr'c.

Everything's Worse with Bears: Averted with Snowy and Ebony, even though they are officially M's henchmen they secretly help the heroes at during their battle with B.A.A.W. Snowy the Polar Bear is especially helpful in revealing M's origin story to the heroes.

Camp Straight: Sinuous the shadow king cobra

Tomboy and Girly Girl: Marzipan is the Tomboy, Beauty is the Girly Girl, to a lesser extant this fits Matoaka and Minsk as well, Matoaka is clearly the tomboy, Minsk is more a Lady of War.

edited 20th Mar '12 3:18:46 PM by Rockhopper

RandomChaos No Dragon Power from My own little world Since: Oct, 2011
No Dragon Power
#353: Mar 21st 2012 at 7:45:34 AM

YKTTW are you listening, non sequitur.

A character says in non sequitur to verify that the person they're talking to isn't paying attention.

The comedy troupe where one character usually female in speaking to another character, usually male. After saying a few things . The woman well say something random, just to see if they were paying attention.

  • Dinosaurs: and then I'm going to take all my clothes off and dance naked in the driveway
  • Royal Pains: and I'm pregnant with twins it's going to be hard to have them in prison
  • one of the Power Ranger shows: and the Rangers have requested clown suits for when they're on patrol . I've approved them

edited 22nd Mar '12 8:04:36 AM by RandomChaos

With the power of a dragon I can make up for my inability to spill.
Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#354: Mar 21st 2012 at 11:34:16 PM

One more trope I'd like added to Space Beasts

No Biochemical Barriers: Space Beasts Gives this trope a run around, particularly the 'alien food is edible' aspect. For the most part aliens and Earthlings can share a good majority of their food, but a few things are poisonous, narcotic, or just plain inedible to Aliens or Earthlings, Aves for instance cannot eat dairy products since they come from a planet where mammals and therefore milk never evolved, also if a male Ave eats a strawberry they become extremely horny sex fiends with an extremely painful erection that can only be relieved by having sex with whatever the Ave can catch (No one knows how a strawberry would affect a female Ave, most female Aves hope not to find out.) During the Phantom of Crystal Mountain story arc, Marzipan gets very sick and vomits after eating a curry-like dish that Aves consider a delicacy, prompting Falco to order Earth food to feed her. (Only Marzipan seems to have this reaction though, Falco's girlfriend Rose the Dragon Girl was able to eat it without any problems, it could be that Rose who had been living on Ava for quite some time was able to adjust, or it could be the dish only has a negative effect on cats not dragons.) Falco himself has trouble with Earth cuisine when he and Rose are observing humans make maple syrup Falco gets curious and tries some, however he has a very bad reaction and starts wiping his tongue and the floor, it could be that maple syrup isn't good for Aves or Falco just doesn't like the taste of maple syrup.

edited 24th Mar '12 2:07:57 PM by Rockhopper

Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#355: Mar 24th 2012 at 12:18:37 PM

OK One more for Space Beasts

RecycledINSPACE: Picture The Phantom of the Opera in a Bio Punk Futuristic setting The Phantom of the story is an Intelligent Gerbil Alien Bird, the Christine of the story is an Uplifted Animal Petting Zoo Person Cat Girl the Raoul of the story is a Human Clone who doesn't suffer from Cloning Blues and the majority of the supporting casts are Petting-Zoo People With the Carlotta being a Dragon Girl, the Firmin and Andre are a Ram and a Bull, respectively and the Madame Giry is a Bat Woman

edited 24th Mar '12 12:19:53 PM by Rockhopper

Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#356: Apr 2nd 2012 at 7:12:55 PM

Is anyone going to help me? I can't add these myself unless someone unsuspends me

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#357: Apr 2nd 2012 at 7:58:49 PM

@Rockhopper: For the examples in your second post:

Cute Kitten: Marzipan knows darn well about this trope and uses it to get her way. Whenever she wants Ichabod to do something, she acts like an adorable kitty by purring, meowing and batting at a ball of yarn until Ichabod relents from the Cuteness Overload. She also used it this tactic when she was being held prisoner by Falco and his wicked Uncle Skeksis. It seems to work even better on Falco due to the fact he was suffering from Lima Syndrome.

Ethical Slut: Kate Punda-Milla, the zebra girl, is only kind of partially this. She was infamous on her home world for being a mare who Really Gets Around but has since come came to settle down for the family life with Ichabod's half uncle, Thomas Lanky. However, she is very helpful to the crew as she is pretty much a sexual encyclopedia and gives Bill and Samantha advice on how to safely make love. and She also gives Ichabod and Marzipan ideas on how to satisfy their libidos (tickling fetishes, spanking) without losing their virginity.

What Measure Is a Non-Cute?: Averted. While many most of the main cast are typically cuddly creatures like, household pets Marzipan the ragdoll cat and Quaxo the tabby cat. There are woodland creatures like Jim the squirrel and Rook the fox, farm animals like Bill the Bull, or and charismatic mega fauna like Kong the Gorilla and Kate the Zebra. There are also many heroic humanimals whose species are typically cast in a villainous role like Beauty Cherrystone (cobra girl), Iris Ogg (bat woman) 'and even a heroic cockroach named Sir Nrrr'c.

Everything's Worse with Bears: Averted with Snowy and Ebony. even though Although'' they are officially M's henchmen, they secretly helped the heroes at during their battle with B.A.A.W. Snowy the polar bear is especially helpful in revealing M's origin story to the heroes.

Can you do the Pretty Boy example again? It contains a lot of information that isn't relevant to the trope.

edited 3rd Apr '12 10:25:27 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#358: Apr 3rd 2012 at 4:09:04 PM

Thank you for helping, I'll do the Pretty boy Trope over soon I just need to take care of some things

Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#359: Apr 3rd 2012 at 5:56:14 PM

Pretty Boy M Newkirk (An Expy of N Harmonia from Pokemon Black and White) Is this he is this. According to most of the other men He's so beautiful it's obnoxious.

edited 3rd Apr '12 5:56:29 PM by Rockhopper

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#360: Apr 3rd 2012 at 6:16:35 PM

Now that's much better.

Pretty Boy: M Newkirk, an expy of N Harmonia from Pokemon Black And White is this? He is this! According to most of the other men, he's so beautiful that it's obnoxious.

  • Tomboy and Girly Girl:
    • Marzipan is the tomboy and Beauty is the girly girl.
    • To a lesser extant, this fits Matoaka and Minsk as well. Matoaka is clearly the tomboy and Minsk is more of a Lady of War.

If you can expand on your example for Camp Straight, to show how Shadow fits the trope. I will put all of the examples on the page and move on to your next batch.

edited 3rd Apr '12 6:18:19 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#361: Apr 3rd 2012 at 8:09:27 PM

(The cobra's name is Sinuous not Shadow...shadow is what he is)

Camp Straight Sinuous the shadow cobra is this. He is a frilly fashion loving reptile who is nonetheless in love with a female penguin.

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#362: Apr 3rd 2012 at 8:40:10 PM

Ah, sorry. I was tired.

Anyway, your example actually appears to be grammatically correct. I'm putting on the examples on Space Beasts.

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#364: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:10:12 AM

@Random Chaos: We already have a trope named Nonsequitur. This appears to be a subtrope of it.

A character says something in non sequitur to verify that the person they're talking to isn't paying attention.

The This comedy troupe trope is where when one character, who's usually female in is speaking to another character, usually male. After saying a few things, the woman might as well have said something random, just to see if he were was''' paying attention.

For your examples, you need to identify who is speaking, in order for me to fix them.

edited 8th Apr '12 9:46:07 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
RandomChaos No Dragon Power from My own little world Since: Oct, 2011
No Dragon Power
#365: Apr 7th 2012 at 9:28:35 AM

I don't remember there names.

With the power of a dragon I can make up for my inability to spill.
Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#366: Apr 7th 2012 at 10:01:47 AM

You can't really use quote markup then... so how about describing what they are saying using " " (quotes)?

edited 8th Apr '12 9:44:52 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#367: Apr 8th 2012 at 6:56:18 PM

I don't remember their names.

There=> here (location)

Their=> heir (possessive)

They're has an apostrophe, making it a contraction of two words, they and are.

Fight smart, not fair.
Ciabella Since: Jan, 2011
#368: Apr 8th 2012 at 7:15:42 PM

Can someone help me with these edits?

  • No Yay: Maki/Amber from Darker Than Black. Maki is a sociopathic creepy Child Soldier with Social Darwinist tendencies, who acts like a Stalker with a Crush towards his boss to a point he ties to Murder the Hypotenuse. This behavior is unusual, because Contractors are thought to have no sense of guilt but also no emotions. Amber, on the other hand, is an adult woman in a body of a teenage girl and she becomes younger and younger as she uses her powers finally turning into a little girl and then disappearing completely. She is also a Manipulative Bitch with an Omniscient Morality License and an ability to see the future. Which means she knows Maki is going to die and chooses to do nothing about it, because it would ruin her plan and lead to a destruction of all Contractors. Oh, and they both work for the same terrorist organization, which main purpose is to wipe out all Japan.

  • Magnetic Hero: Kamyk (eng. Little stone) from Kroniki Durgiego Kręgu (eng. Chronicles of the Second Circle) series, being a Weirdness Magnet as well, seems to attract very strange, seemingly dangerous or simply outputting people. His friends include: a hairy dragon, a mountaineer who likes to sleep with the men, women and teenage boys alike and whom most of his coworkers think to be a little nuts and a whole group of his peers with issues, from which one is more hairy than the dragon mentioned before and other is a Heroic Albino Wild Child. He is able to befriend one of the most bratty and selfish characters in the series, even through the guy hated him before. This trope is lampashed by his dragon companion in the first book, when he states that he’s a “pack leader” and even through there is no group now, it will form around him with a time and by itself.

  • Everyone Is Related: During the course of Dark Refletions Trilogy we learn that the Flowing Queen is really a lioness goddess Sakhmet, who was impregnated by the Stone Light and gave birth to the Son of the Mother. They later mated and created sphinxes in a process. Because she also gave life to the flying stone lions, they can be considered her children as well. Merle is Lalapeya’s daughter and Lord Light’s granddaughter. Because her mother is a sphinx she is related to the both Big Bads of the series, the Flowing Queen and Vermithrax.

edited 11th Apr '12 2:02:34 AM by Ciabella

Rockhopper Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#369: Apr 8th 2012 at 8:54:54 PM

Could someone please add the tropes that were not added to the space beasts page? Not all of them were added

Here is one more

In the Blood: In Ave society it is firmly believed that the children of rapists, (Especially children conceived through rape) are inherently evil and will become rapists themselves, Poor Revel Zander's servant and best friend became a socially dead pariah when it was revealed his father raped his mother, and even Zander turned against him, determined to keep his little sister Gear away from Revel at all costs. Revel almost turns to the dark side and does use his inherent magical talents to hex Zander into falling in love what he believed was 'the most disgusting creature in the universe' (A Humanimal) Revel later regretted the curse after Gear almost gets killed saving Zander and Revel from being shot down by one of The Greys Revel even invokes this tropes when casting his hex and singing what can only be considered an Anti-Villain Song. Revel: I know it's bad! It's not nice! But I really can't help it I've got bad blood you see, it's in my blood-My father's vice!

edited 8th Apr '12 8:55:24 PM by Rockhopper

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#370: Apr 8th 2012 at 9:10:46 PM

Sorry! I'll add the rest.

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Mafagafo from Pasárgada, Brazil Since: Mar, 2012
#371: Apr 9th 2012 at 4:10:02 AM

Not a grammatic, but a semantic question: Actually, are there any pun on Incredibly Lame Pun? If so, could someone explain it to a non-native speaker?

I ask this because I saw a translation suggestion that seems to imply this. But I'm not sure if it was only the troper's creativity.

edited 9th Apr '12 4:17:24 AM by Mafagafo

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#372: Apr 9th 2012 at 3:30:13 PM

Are you asking about a pun in the title itself, or puns in the description?

Mafagafo from Pasárgada, Brazil Since: Mar, 2012
#373: Apr 9th 2012 at 11:53:00 PM

In the title itself.

[down] Thanks. (I have nothing against it. The specific suggestion would be misleading and, besides, I was curious)

edited 10th Apr '12 9:55:49 AM by Mafagafo

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#374: Apr 10th 2012 at 5:22:06 AM

No, there's no pun. That doesn't mean that translations have to be pun-free, though.

cityofmist turning and turning from Meanwhile City Since: Dec, 2010
turning and turning
#375: Apr 15th 2012 at 12:43:59 PM

In the Blood: In Ave society it is firmly believed that the children of rapists [no comma; it's redundant because of the brackets] (especially children conceived through rape) are inherently evil and will become rapists themselves. Poor Revel, Zander's servant and best friend, became a socially dead pariah when it was revealed his father raped his mother, and even Zander turned against him, determined to keep his little sister Gear away from Revel at all costs. Revel almost turns to the dark side and does use his inherent magical talents to hex Zander into falling in love with what he [you need to correct this, as the 'he' is ambiguous - does it refer to Revel or Zander?] believed was 'the most disgusting creature in the universe', a Humanimal. Revel later regrets the curse after Gear almost gets killed saving Zander and Revel from being shot down by one of the Greys. Revel even invokes this trope when casting his hex and singing what can only be considered an Anti-Villain Song.

REVEL: I know it's bad! It's not nice! But I really can't help it; I've got bad blood, you see, it's in my blood - My father's vice!

edited 15th Apr '12 12:44:21 PM by cityofmist

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