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Deadlock Clock: Jul 29th 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#26: Aug 8th 2013 at 8:33:12 AM

Yep, I like that.

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#27: Aug 8th 2013 at 6:40:26 PM

For the record, "Kaiserreich" is one word in German.

But yes, that's probably the best suggestions. When will we start moving the examples?

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#28: Aug 8th 2013 at 7:55:04 PM

Agree with naming it Kaiserreich, or possibly Der Kaiserreich (did I use the right article there?).

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#29: Aug 9th 2013 at 2:40:03 AM

No, it's Das Kaiserreich. "Der" is masculine; "reich" is neutrum.

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#31: Aug 17th 2013 at 11:55:06 AM

Bumping again...

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#32: Aug 20th 2013 at 1:09:39 AM

Name sounds ok, though to make it official, we should probably swap crowners

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#33: Aug 20th 2013 at 3:44:28 AM

Calling this one for the proposed fixes.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#34: Aug 20th 2013 at 3:47:56 AM

Hmm...does anybody have plans to start a YKTTW for The Theme Park Version of the Kaiserreich?

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#35: Aug 20th 2013 at 8:50:04 AM

Kaiserreich has been launched.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#36: Aug 20th 2013 at 8:54:34 AM

I think this trope already exists as Prussia.

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#37: Aug 20th 2013 at 8:58:43 AM

Hm... I think we need another TRS for that thread. Prussia would be better off as a Useful Notes page, while Kaiserreich is the Theme Park Version.

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#38: Aug 20th 2013 at 8:59:02 AM

While Prussian stereotypes are a big part of the Kaiserreich thing, Prussia is just a substate of the Kaiserreich.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#39: Aug 20th 2013 at 9:17:43 AM

I didn't know Prussia was a state. Either way, there should be a Theme Park Version page, and a Useful Notes page that would be a subset of Useful Notes.Germany.

edited 20th Aug '13 9:17:59 AM by Rethkir

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#40: Aug 21st 2013 at 5:31:30 PM

So... anyone willing to contribute to the YKTTW?

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#41: Aug 22nd 2013 at 2:01:14 AM

I would, but since my knowledge of the subject is basically zero....tongue

SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#42: Sep 2nd 2013 at 7:19:11 PM

Bumping

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#43: Sep 9th 2013 at 2:46:44 PM

Okay, the solution for this trope generally seems to be agreed upon, so would it be possible for someone to change the clocking symbol to the star?

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#44: Sep 9th 2013 at 2:50:15 PM

Nay, we still need a name.

edited 9th Sep '13 2:51:13 PM by SeptimusHeap

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#45: Sep 9th 2013 at 4:57:17 PM

Everyone seems to agree on Kaiserreich, but if you really want, here's another crowner.

edited 9th Sep '13 4:59:20 PM by SantosLHalper

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SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#46: Sep 16th 2013 at 4:56:08 PM

Is anyone still interested in this?

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#47: Sep 17th 2013 at 12:47:03 PM

The alt titles crowner is hooked.

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#48: Sep 18th 2013 at 4:24:44 AM

I thought "keep as is" was not allowed on an alt.titles crowner? We already had a crowner that decided the name was to be changed.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#49: Sep 18th 2013 at 4:29:58 AM

Yeah, that doesn't sound like a valid option.

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#50: Sep 18th 2013 at 6:42:45 AM

Whoops. Well... there really wasn't any alternative proposed, and I thought there should be another option. Sorry about that. Can a mod remove it?

Also, here's the new description I made:

When Germany isn't shown as Oktoberfest, or All Germans Are Nazis, chances are it would be shown like this. The Theme Park Version of Germany during the 19th century and World War I, these Germans are likely to be dour, industrious types with a love of war, honour and tradition and a hatred of fun and games. Other common features of the Kaiserreich are:

Also, since Prussia should be more of a Useful Notes page, would anyone object to me moving the examples from there to here? I think I'll start up a TRS thread for that when we're done here.

And how about this for a page image?

edited 18th Sep '13 6:56:12 AM by SantosLHalper

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PageAction: Fatherland
26th Jul '13 7:02:19 AM

Crown Description:

Fatherland is currently defined as the Fantasy Counterpart Culture of Prussia / Imperial Germany.

One issue is that other fantasy counterpart cultures are simply listed on Fantasy Counterpart Culture; sister tropes like Eagleland are simply about "exaggerated stereotypes of a country".

Another issue is that Fatherland is the name of several works, and numerous countries besides Germany use it to refer to their country instead.

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