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- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
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- Wrong: Badass Adorable
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- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Yes, it does, but these works are clearly not set in them.
If a teen is described as fifteen years old, and it is the first time they are in combat, would that count as an example of Child Soldiers?
Seems iffy. Fifteen would depend on how it's played.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"A former slave was fighting in contingent of freed slaves to keep their freedom. Some were described as young as 15.
Child Soldiers as a trope has to do with the horror and psychological trauma of putting a weapon in the hands of a young person and sending them off to fight. If that's present in the work, then it would count.
edited 9th Jan '15 9:22:34 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Any more input on '20s Bob Haircut? I've removed the manga examples and left the MLP (though I'd like to see it go as well).
edited 10th Jan '15 5:43:23 AM by XFllo
Status Cell Phone's article says that in spite of continued use by contemporary fiction, the trope is "slowly dying out in today's day and age", due to the loss of significance in owning a top-of-the-line cell phone model to commonness and the rapid pace of technological advancement.
So... What case of Trope Tropes does this trope's situation fit? Discredited Trope? Undead Horse Trope? Trope Breaker? Something else?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Except that they're apparently still in use, they've just become... anachronistic in their application, I guess.
edited 13th Jan '15 12:19:39 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.OK. Um, do my edits to Status Cell Phone just now look right? I hope I used Technology Marches On and Society Marches On correctly.
edited 13th Jan '15 12:29:13 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.The description places too much emphasis on "modern times". As Examples Are Not Recent, neither are depictions of culture. Also, the description spends too much time discussing the phenomenon and not enough time making it clear what the trope actually is. Take this to the Trope Description Improvement topic in the Projects forum; it's not really relevant to this thread.
edited 13th Jan '15 12:32:42 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"In Mobile Suit Gundam SEED, the ZAFT paramilitary organization has a Mildly Military structure and Fantastic Rank System in which the uniforms of its members are distinctively color-coded according to their position in the somewhat simplified chain of command (technicians and soldiers are green, commanders and ship captains are black, those who rack up considerable military achievements get to wear white-coded uniforms and have greater authority than their peers, mobile suit ace pilots are red, etc.).
Does this qualify as a group-level example of Color-Coded Characters, or is the trope limited to individuals?
edited 15th Jan '15 9:02:35 AM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.General question: the description and examples of Anger Born of Worry are focused entirely on it being about one character acting angry because of their fear for another character. Can it also cover other cases of characters acting angry because they're afraid?
You mean, afraid for themselves rather than other people? I don't think so; even if we follow a "spirit of the trope" approach, it doesn't really fit with Anger Born of Worry's spirit.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Sounds like a case of Missing Supertrope Syndrome (or at least sister trope).
Is New Girl an example of The Three Faces of Eve? All I know is people like to add it without context and without the wife being referred to as such.
I've never seen the show, but I deleted that since 1) it's a ZCE and 2) TFoE is Wife, not Mother.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.I am confused a bit by Deity of Human Origin. Does the deity in question need to be any god or deity of significant power? Or must be a big G-type God, creator or maintainer of some universe?
What's Gender-Bender Friendship? I'm not sure how broad the trope is since its description is an Example as a Thesis
I put this up on Series.The A Team, but after reading Absentee Actor more I'm not sure it counts, because it seems to be saying that Absentee Actor has to be absent from the ENTIRE episode.
Is this an example? If not, what would it be?
- Absentee Actor:
- B.A. Baracus only appears for about 30 seconds at the very end of "Hot Styles".
- Face literally phones it in during the episode "Breakout!" only appearing on-screen for a minute or two at most, to tell Hannibal on the phone that he won't be there for the episode.
So when J.R.R. Tolkien originally wrote The Hobbit and named the Bigger Bad "the Necromancer", he seems to have meant it in only in the generic sense of "an evil sorcerer". However, in the present, necromancer has come very specifically to refer to a sorcerer with control over the undead, and apparently as a result, in the Hobbit films we have the Necromancer's ability to summon the spirits of the dead as a plot point and clue to his true identity.
My question (which I think I've asked before, but I don't remember ever getting an answer) is: is this an example of Reimagining the Artifact? It doesn't seem to quite fit with most of the examples on that page, but it is a case of altering the original material to fit with changes over time in how something - in this case, a word - is perceived.
In Gotham Fish Mooney only allows her friends to call her Fish (her nickname). It's listed under N-Word Privileges, but it doesn't really fit into the slur part, just the part where only people within a certain group can use it. Is that enough to count as an example?
edited 19th Jan '15 11:05:45 PM by Eagal
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
Wearing a dress because the era demands it doesn't mean that she has the same grace and style as the Proper Lady.
Being a reference to Coco Chanel might count because she's from the 20s. The page '20s Bob Haircut does mention a certain era in Japan.