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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#1051: Jan 9th 2015 at 10:18:05 AM

Wearing a dress because the era demands it doesn't mean that she has the same grace and style as the Proper Lady.

Being a reference to Coco Chanel might count because she's from the 20s. The page '20s Bob Haircut does mention a certain era in Japan.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#1052: Jan 9th 2015 at 12:54:49 PM

[up]Yes, it does, but these works are clearly not set in them.

isoycrazy Lord of the Blue Star Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Lord of the Blue Star
#1053: Jan 9th 2015 at 7:27:09 PM

If a teen is described as fifteen years old, and it is the first time they are in combat, would that count as an example of Child Soldiers?

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isoycrazy Lord of the Blue Star Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Lord of the Blue Star
#1055: Jan 9th 2015 at 9:13:19 PM

A former slave was fighting in contingent of freed slaves to keep their freedom. Some were described as young as 15.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#1056: Jan 9th 2015 at 9:21:51 PM

Child Soldiers as a trope has to do with the horror and psychological trauma of putting a weapon in the hands of a young person and sending them off to fight. If that's present in the work, then it would count.

edited 9th Jan '15 9:22:34 PM by Fighteer

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#1057: Jan 10th 2015 at 5:43:09 AM

Any more input on '20s Bob Haircut? I've removed the manga examples and left the MLP (though I'd like to see it go as well).

edited 10th Jan '15 5:43:23 AM by XFllo

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1058: Jan 13th 2015 at 3:59:18 AM

Status Cell Phone's article says that in spite of continued use by contemporary fiction, the trope is "slowly dying out in today's day and age", due to the loss of significance in owning a top-of-the-line cell phone model to commonness and the rapid pace of technological advancement.

So... What case of Trope Tropes does this trope's situation fit? Discredited Trope? Undead Horse Trope? Trope Breaker? Something else?

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1060: Jan 13th 2015 at 12:19:00 PM

Except that they're apparently still in use, they've just become... anachronistic in their application, I guess.

edited 13th Jan '15 12:19:39 PM by MarqFJA

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1062: Jan 13th 2015 at 12:28:43 PM

OK. Um, do my edits to Status Cell Phone just now look right? I hope I used Technology Marches On and Society Marches On correctly.

edited 13th Jan '15 12:29:13 PM by MarqFJA

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Lost in Space
#1063: Jan 13th 2015 at 12:32:31 PM

The description places too much emphasis on "modern times". As Examples Are Not Recent, neither are depictions of culture. Also, the description spends too much time discussing the phenomenon and not enough time making it clear what the trope actually is. Take this to the Trope Description Improvement topic in the Projects forum; it's not really relevant to this thread.

edited 13th Jan '15 12:32:42 PM by Fighteer

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1065: Jan 15th 2015 at 9:01:38 AM

In Mobile Suit Gundam SEED, the ZAFT paramilitary organization has a Mildly Military structure and Fantastic Rank System in which the uniforms of its members are distinctively color-coded according to their position in the somewhat simplified chain of command (technicians and soldiers are green, commanders and ship captains are black, those who rack up considerable military achievements get to wear white-coded uniforms and have greater authority than their peers, mobile suit ace pilots are red, etc.).

Does this qualify as a group-level example of Color-Coded Characters, or is the trope limited to individuals?

edited 15th Jan '15 9:02:35 AM by MarqFJA

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1066: Jan 17th 2015 at 1:07:05 AM

General question: the description and examples of Anger Born of Worry are focused entirely on it being about one character acting angry because of their fear for another character. Can it also cover other cases of characters acting angry because they're afraid?

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1067: Jan 17th 2015 at 3:50:31 AM

You mean, afraid for themselves rather than other people? I don't think so; even if we follow a "spirit of the trope" approach, it doesn't really fit with Anger Born of Worry's spirit.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1068: Jan 17th 2015 at 3:19:36 PM

Sounds like a case of Missing Supertrope Syndrome (or at least sister trope).

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#1069: Jan 17th 2015 at 8:59:04 PM

Is New Girl an example of The Three Faces of Eve? All I know is people like to add it without context and without the wife being referred to as such.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#1070: Jan 18th 2015 at 9:40:15 AM

I've never seen the show, but I deleted that since 1) it's a ZCE and 2) TFoE is Wife, not Mother.

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isoycrazy Lord of the Blue Star Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Lord of the Blue Star
#1071: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:34:41 AM

I am confused a bit by Deity of Human Origin. Does the deity in question need to be any god or deity of significant power? Or must be a big G-type God, creator or maintainer of some universe?

captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#1072: Jan 19th 2015 at 12:28:13 PM

What's Gender-Bender Friendship? I'm not sure how broad the trope is since its description is an Example as a Thesis

wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
#1073: Jan 19th 2015 at 5:23:48 PM

I put this up on Series.The A Team, but after reading Absentee Actor more I'm not sure it counts, because it seems to be saying that Absentee Actor has to be absent from the ENTIRE episode.

Is this an example? If not, what would it be?

  • Absentee Actor:
    • B.A. Baracus only appears for about 30 seconds at the very end of "Hot Styles".
    • Face literally phones it in during the episode "Breakout!" only appearing on-screen for a minute or two at most, to tell Hannibal on the phone that he won't be there for the episode.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1074: Jan 19th 2015 at 8:23:04 PM

So when J.R.R. Tolkien originally wrote The Hobbit and named the Bigger Bad "the Necromancer", he seems to have meant it in only in the generic sense of "an evil sorcerer". However, in the present, necromancer has come very specifically to refer to a sorcerer with control over the undead, and apparently as a result, in the Hobbit films we have the Necromancer's ability to summon the spirits of the dead as a plot point and clue to his true identity.

My question (which I think I've asked before, but I don't remember ever getting an answer) is: is this an example of Reimagining the Artifact? It doesn't seem to quite fit with most of the examples on that page, but it is a case of altering the original material to fit with changes over time in how something - in this case, a word - is perceived.

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
#1075: Jan 19th 2015 at 11:05:15 PM

In Gotham Fish Mooney only allows her friends to call her Fish (her nickname). It's listed under N-Word Privileges, but it doesn't really fit into the slur part, just the part where only people within a certain group can use it. Is that enough to count as an example?

edited 19th Jan '15 11:05:45 PM by Eagal

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!

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