All Purpose Evangelion Fanfiction Thread

He'd probably be a secondary character, the Mad Oracle who NERV has to rely upon to survive SEELE and the Angels' depredations. Could result in some interesting moral dilemmas regarding whether to treat him as a (very badly damaged) person or as a resource.

What's precedent ever done for us?

Hey, I just had an idea - premise is: During those cross-compatibility tests, Gendo forces Asuka to participate as well. Then, when Shinji gets into Eva Unit-02, Kyoko goes fangirl, makes Shinji pass out, and starts making out with his soul. And everyone on the bridge has audio of exactly what's going on, Shinji and Kyoko end up with a sync ratio twice as good as Asuka's, and in Grand Eva Tradition, things go Mind Screw. Perhaps literally.

And before anyone asks "Why?", the answer is, of course, "Why the hell not?"

edited 8th Apr '12 8:55:32 AM by EvaUnit01

I see, so the burden falls upon someone like Misato to keep thing together, thinking Shinji crazy while she doesn't realize the truth. Interesting. I think I would read that.

Shinji/Kyoko, huh? But say that happens; what then? Seems like it would mess things up even more with no chance of escape.

Author of The Second Coming (NGE) and The Coin (Haruhi).

You know, considering Shinji's obvious Oedipus Complex subtext, how come Shinji/Yui romance fics are practically inexistent? I've only seen one h-doujinshi with Shinji/Yui porn, and another doujinshi's at-the-end omake pages where an AU version of Yui ends up caving in to the demands of toddler Shinji and toddler Rei and breastfeeds them... but ends up punching Gendo for trying to cut in. (Hey, the whole scene was funny!)

Do it. Don't make me beg, please.

Doesn't make a lick of sense. It not only violates basic logic regarding the very real dangers of something impacting the glass from either outside or inside the chamber, but Gendo is far too meticulous and Properly Paranoid for that happening due to him forgetting it to be plausible.

Woman Scorned doesn't become a factor in Ritsuko's personality until much later in the story, and Idiot Ball is not a good alternative either.

Hey, he's being Crazy Awesome, and Asuka develops a freaking fetish for "uber-dramatic-yandere-demigods"! What's there not to like for me?

Story centered on Crack Pairing will often lead to the story itself becoming Crack Fic.

edited 8th Apr '12 11:31:30 AM by MarqFJA

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The fact Yui has been kinda dead for years in the main continuity, and the AU manga aren't that well known, doesn't help Shinji/Yui coupling.

She's confirmed as being alive inside Evangelion Unit 01. The Evangelion pilots in their entry plugs have obvious fetus-in-the-womb metaphors (and possibly unbirthing allusions). Shinji's brief meeting with Yui (not that he realized it at the time, or even remembers it afterwards) in his near-death experience within Leliel also has strong oedipal allusions. And then there's the possible incest factor of Shinji/Rei due to Rei being created from Yui's salvaged remains (which, incidentally, results in a lot of Shinji/Rei fics either having the characters admit the incest factor but not caring about it, or having plot developments removing said factor, like Rei returning from Third Impact with a much changed genome). I don't see why all that didn't generate enough of a Fetish Fuel factor to produce heaps of Shinji/Yui over the past 17 years since Neon Genesis Evangelion's debut. God knows Ranma One Half had had its own share of Ranma/Nodoka lemonfics (or fics with Ranma/Nodoka lemon as part of their premise), be it on FF.Net or elsewhere.

edited 8th Apr '12 11:53:12 AM by MarqFJA

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It's such a specific scenario it only could be done a small handful of times before it starts ringing repetitive to authors. Plus, Shinji already has a surrogate motherly figure in Misato, so authors can scratch that particular itch with her already in a wider variety of less 'contrived' ways, and without being accused of supporting actual incest.

edited 8th Apr '12 11:55:16 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

As for the actual incest... we've got Rei for that.

What's precedent ever done for us?

I probably would also read it. I'm also not using the arrows because I'd lose track of how many I need at a time when there are large gaps in my activity. To answer your question, though, Kyoko becomes an enabler for Shinji's inner Hot-Blooded Badass, they do some Crazy Awesome shit together while in the Eva, Asuka is utterly humiliated that her mom is extremely attracted to goddamn Shinji, and the utter impossibility of them being together by any stretch of logic effectively makes the universe itself Go Mad from the Revelation, and they all live happily ever after because it's a Crack Fic.

That was also a main question of mine, Marq FJA. And it is what inspired me to start Burning Vengeance. So, you want my cracktastic Shinji/Kyoko fic? All right then, maybe I'll see if I can get around to starting it sometime soon. It'll be like God Within, but with Kyoko as a Manic Pixie Dream Girl inspiring Shinji to end up somewhere between Guy Shishioh and Simon. If I ever continue Prodigal Son, you might check it out - the Shinji in that one is going to be a Composite Character of Saika, Sephiroth, and Captain America. As in, "I love you, so, SO much. However, Mother, in her infinite grace and compassion, has bid me not to cut you. Even so, I must teach you the error of your ways. Believe me, beloved, that this pains me far more than it does you!" (spoken to random Yellow Scarf Jerkass number 3). Shinji and Super Smash Bros. also has a fair amount of upcoming Crazy Awesome, and eventually, so too will Spirit Of A Ranger. And Neon Knights is essentially a World Of Crazy Awesome, even if such hasn't been fully shown yet.

Naruto's mom has been dead HIS ENTIRE LIFE, and that doesn't stop people from having THEM screw each other into satisfied oblivion.

Whether Rei counts as incest or is entirely Depending on the Writer.

edited 8th Apr '12 12:37:21 PM by EvaUnit01

Also, the Shinji in "God Within" is voiced by Dan Green. I keep forgetting to mention that in the story itself.

See, I'm thinking that 'Shinji becomes a Crazy Awesome badass' is getting kinda clichéd, and has a good chance of killing the conflict in the story. The psychological fuckery, after all, is pretty much Eva's major selling point as a Super Robot show.

Another idea - what if NERV couldn't create Rei? They didn't have the science, they couldn't grasp the principles, whatever. They still need a Child to pilot an Eva, though, so Shinji stays with his dad and becomes NERV's default tool and lab-rat. Problem is, though, he's not a blank slate like Rei. He remembers what happened to his mother, and he knows that he's being put through the exact same procedures, whilst being denied any chance of a normal life. Plus, now that his cloning project went belly-up, Gendo knows that Shinji and EVA-01 are Yui's last remaining legacy.

Could result in an... interesting father-son dynamic, that.

What's precedent ever done for us?

Simple problem, simple solution. If Hero is too Badass and/or Crazy Awesome, then Ramp up his enemies to match. Also, even if "Shinji becomes a Crazy Awesome Badass" is becoming cliche, then so what? For some of us, that's the entire point. Of course, it might clog things up a bit for those who find it repetitive, but at least it's not as prolific as the yaoi problem in the Naruto and Kingdom Hearts sections.

That's kind of like saying that a serial killer's depredations aren't quite as bad as the Holocaust, though.

Seriously, the Naruto slash fandom is nuts.

What's precedent ever done for us?

Haha, tell me about it. I actually used to write for Naruto back before Shippuden started, then I decided that it got too crazy and got the hell out of dodge. A few years and one new account later, and I'm writing Crazy Awesome Eva fics.

I could see a VERY love/hate relationship between Gendo and Shinji. Especially since Shinji gets to pilot Unit-01 which is about as close to Yui as any of them are gonna get.

1) NERV had nothing to do with Rei's creation; that was solely Gendo's (and maybe Fuyutuski's) doing.

2) It's heavily implied that Rei is essential to Gendo's agenda, persumably because his intention to reunite with Yui via his version of Third Impact requires that his medium for said process be purely a hybrid of Yui's genome and Lilith's alien genome. No Rei (or an equivalent hybrid) means Failure Is the Only Option for Gendo.

... Burning Vengeance will have Shinji/Yui Parental Incest?

edited 8th Apr '12 1:25:26 PM by MarqFJA

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OTOH, Gendo keeping Shinji as the pilot while still desperately trying to create a Rei could work.

Would this mean Naoko lives to Shinji's teen years, with no Rei I to cause her breakdown and suicide? Or should she just snap because of any other reason along the way? Because I can see her becoming increasingly pathologically jealous of her own daughter.

Does Gendo shag Naoko in this canon at all? I assume he needs her computer skills, but would he sleep with her to get them? No Rei means no canon breakup. Does Gendo just dump her?

It's never made particularly clear, but we can assume she, at least, always kept a hope of getting to enjoy extended physical intimacy with him.

Well, assuming no Rei, we have to ask what Gendo's goal is: reuniting with Yui. Okay, he can't follow canon, probably. But can Shinji & Unit-01 achieve somekind of intrumentality? If so THAT could get Gendo back with Yui's mind at least. And SEELE had a plan to do that too, right?

So Gendo plays along with SEELE while making his own plans to usurpt the instrumentality. And one assumes he'll need allies, including experts on Angels and so on. So he'd probably string along Naoko, and probably try to get Kyoko Zepplin under his control too.

Makes sense?

Well, yes. Wasn't it obvious? The summary even says that the pairing is Shin(ji)/Yui. If one thing can be said of the three Ikaris, it's that they're all f*cked up. Although mostly depending on the viewer's own crackpot theories with regards to Yui.

Re:Rei: I presume that Gendo only put the moves on Ritsu because Naoko was kinda, you know, dead, and Ritsuko was, in terms of usefulness, basically her Captain Ersatz or whatever, at least to Gendo.

Question for a NGE-Metal Gear x-over fic project of mine: Which of the teenaged characters (Children or otherwise, canon or spinoff-only) best match up with which of the Metal Gear Solid series' installments' antagonist bosses (FOXHOUND for MGS 1, Sons of Liberty for MGS 2, Cobra Unit for MGS 3, The Beast and the Beauty Unit for MGS 4)?

Well, excuse me for, in the absence of "Romance" as a genre or any incest warning in the summary, interpreting it as "this fic will focus on Shinji and Yui".

... Then again, maybe I shouldn't have skimmed over the first chapter's author's notes at the top.

Dysfunction Junction is in Neon Genesis Evangelion's trope list for a reason.

Oh yes. Alternative Character Interpretation aplenty; I'll admit that I've always subscribed to a moderate (but still morally "white") version of the "Saint Yui" interpretation, until I came across the Evageeks article on Yui's agenda, and read Alternative Character Interpretation.Anime's NGE entry and some of YMMV.Neon Genesis Evangelion's relevant entries. Now? My headcanon is that she's the most sympathetic and redeemable Well-Intentioned Extremist in NGE, who probably knew that her plan would damn her to Hell if the NGE-verse had one (and maybe she actually chose to stay in Unit 01 and float in space as some kind of Self-Inflicted Hell to atone for traumatizing her own son so much for the sake of ultimately saving both him and humankind).

edited 9th Apr '12 6:36:06 AM by MarqFJA

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Especially when I'm writing, the author's notes are important. There's usually some valuable information somewhere amidst the nigh incoherent babble. Anyway, the reason I don't have it in the Romance category is because it's more of a Supernatural Action story, with the romance being more in the background. Still, I hope that this Reveal hasn't turned you off of the story - it'd be a shame to lose a reader....

Well, yes, but the Ikaris are special.

I have plans about Alternate Character Interpretation later on in Neon Knights, the likes of which (given the nature of the overall fandom) I doubt ANYONE will ever see coming. Of course, the mere fact that I said that means that anyone familiar with the Eva fandom now has an increased chance of guessing the twist.

Are you kidding?! Now I want to read this story even more!!! Really!

I know. I'm just saying that being quite f***ed up is a given in NGE, regardless of how variably severe it is in individual cases.

Interesting...

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Excellent, because you just increased my INS (Inspiration) stat to about 100 (out of 255). For reference, it was at around 40 previously. Of course, now there's only one thing to do: add at least two more pages to the next chapter so I can say that I actually made some f*cking progress. Also, see if you can get yourself an mp3 of "Fight On!", the standard boss music from Final Fantasy VII - it'll function as the Theme Music Power-Up about halfway through the battle with Sachiel in the next chapter. "Otherworld" will also be used later, in the battle against Sandalphon. And it will be epic.

And as for your Metal Gear thing, I've only literally just started on Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater last night. I get the impression that Asuka would be FOXHOUND and that Mari might be the B&B Unit, though.

edited 9th Apr '12 8:51:59 AM by EvaUnit01