YMMV / Brock Lesnar

  • Alternate Character Interpretation: His infamous "lack of passion" for the business added to his self-described competitive streak could be viewed as a positive: As long as he's paid well, he's not going to let his ego get in the way of where he is on the card, wins/losses, and will make a huge effort within the match.
  • Awesome Music: If the aptly-titled "Here Comes the Pain" doesn't get your blood pumping, we do not know what will.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • He's...a bit of a touchy subject among wrestling fans. On one hand, it's hard to argue with the fact that he's a hell of a talent. On the other, there's a lot of resentment over the fact that during his first run, he had (in the words of CM Punk) the keys to the kingdom handed to him and just walked out.
    • To say fans are polarized that he was the one to break the Undertaker's Streak at WrestleMania is a bit of an understatement. Reasons being: he's a part-timer (bad), he's an old veteran instead of a young guy (YMMV), he's a beastly athlete and clearly Taker's physical superior (good), he's a mercenary at heart who's walked out on WWE before (bad), he's got the most potential as a fearsome heel out of anybody active today if used and booked correctly (good), he's the most legitimate fighting badass in pro wrestling history by virtue of his accomplishments in Mixed Martial Arts, a sport which Taker heavily respects (good), the moment of his victory legitimately shocked the wrestling world, something that rarely ever happens (good), the streak is so legendary that the whole question of it being broken at all is a dicey one (bad)…let's just say this is the stuff of Internet Backdraft with a whole host of reasons fanning the flames! Mick Foley pointed out that, if the streak was to be broken, Lesnar was the one to do it. Foley mentions that whoever broke the streak, there would be heat on that person, but Lesnar does not give a damn what the fans think about him.
    • As the years go on between WrestleMania XXX and the present grow, there is a growing frustration with Brock Lesnar's character: on one hand, yes it is awesome to have a certified asskicker monster. On the other hand, Lesnar's lack of availability, exorbitant price tag, repetitive moveset (the number of moves he hits in a match that are not a German suplex can be counted on one hand), and the overprotective nature of his booking makes a lot of people wonder if breaking the streak was worth it if this is the outcome.
    • The aftermath of his UFC 200 fight has caused perhaps one of the biggest base splits since his breaking of the Streak. First, Lesnar defeated Mark Hunt in the fight...only it was revealed that he tested positive for steroids, thus calling the legitimacy of his victory into serious question. Then, Dean Ambrose (then the current WWE Champion) gave an interview revealing that his and Brock Lesnar's infamously lackluster WrestleMania 32 match was frustrating because Brock apparently wasn't interested in doing anything beyond a basic squash match. It didn't take long for fans to put two and two together, and accuse Brock Lesnar of deliberately sandbagging a WM match because he didn't want to get hurt while training for UFC, nearly derailing a whitehot babyface in Dean Ambrose in the process. That's not even getting into his SummerSlam 2016 match with Randy Orton, which ended with Orton lying in a pool of his own blood after taking unprotected elbows from a professional MMA fighter on the head. As the planned finish. Not only was this seen as an unnecessary attempt to make an already strong-looking Lesnar look even stronger at the expense of the most mainstream full-time wrestler in the company after Cena and a twelve-time world champion, it was also considered a confusing and dangerous finish. It was fairly obvious to everyone that the one thing the company didn't plan on was Orton losing that much blood, and those with knowledge of MMA outright stated that Orton could have been seriously hurt by those elbows.note  Later reports indicated that Randy actually did get hurt — with a concussion. It caused the company to scrap his match with Bray Wyatt at Backlash three weeks later.
  • Catharsis Factor:
    • For everyone that hates John Cena's character, and his repetitive wrestling style, and absolute refusal to tweak anything while the WWE stubbornly pushes him as the one and only thing worth caring about in their company…the sight of Brock Lesnar beating the unholy fuck out of him at SummerSlam 2014 was glorious. Utterly, utterly glorious.
    • On the other hand, for those who have been getting sick of Lesnar being pushed as an neigh-unbeatable monster since breaking the Streak, the sight of him getting beaten by Goldberg in under two minutes at Survivor Series 2016 is sure to put a smile on your faces.
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy:
    • He started to cause this for more than a few fans in 2016. What's the point of even getting invested in his next feud at all, when he'll almost assuredly win as well as brutalize whichever babyface steps up? Then we got a piece of suspense by the name of Goldbergwho ultimately managed subvert this Up to Eleven by actually invoking Curb-Stomp Battle at Survivor Series 2016 and again at Royal Rumble 2017.
    • Sadly, after the events of WrestleMania 33, that apathy is likely to return seeing as Lesnar is once again the world champion (in this case, Raw's Universal Champion), and is likely to hold it for months while barely showing up on WWE television and is also rumored to drop it to Roman Reigns, X-Pac Heat magnet extraordinaire.
  • Franchise Original Sin: Brock's continuous high-profile squash matches after he beat the Streak, which became progressively worse with each match. Cena? Absolutely glorious due to the Catharsis Factor. Reigns? Same.Explanation  Rollins? Well, he is playing chickenshit heel, and we're getting the rematch with 'Taker.Explanation  Ambrose? Okay, this is starting to get bad.Explanation  Orton? Oh hell no. Explanation 
  • Fridge Brilliance: His absolute STOMPING of John Cena at SummerSlam 2014 contained sixteen snap suplexes (fifteen of them Germans). This counts brilliantly both for injury and for insult.
    • For insult: the suplex, especially the German suplex, is a traditional wrestling move. John Cena's wrestling skills, rightfully or not, are perceived as being grossly below-standard for someone standing at the top of the business for as long as he has. Subjecting Cena to an assault of suplexes in a meta sense mocks Cena for his limited ability, and specifically the lack of variation in his signature match formula. Furthermore… 
    • For injury: Cena is notorious among smarks for often bumping on his butt as opposed to his back. A creative mind could use this to explain Cena's Superman-esque pain threshold by saying he's mastered a way to absorb his pain by protecting his back. Suplexes are designed to drop the recipient on either their upper back or, in the case of forcefully-applied rear suplexes such as the German, the back of their neck. With Lesnar being a physical genius in the art of wrestling and dishing out pain and Heyman a mental mastermind, they very well could've noticed this and decided to intentionally spam Cena with a powerful move that he could not protect his back from.
    • The combat pragmatism only increases when you look at the rest of Lesnar's offense. John Cena is one of several individuals who tend to take the F-5 directly on their side instead of their front. After hitting Cena with an F-5 thirty seconds into the match, only for Cena to kick out, Lesnar would repeatedly punish Cena with knee strikes to the side of his ribs, the aforementioned suplexes, and mount punches and facewashing kicks/stomps aimed generally right for his head. Every point of attack was designed to punish John Cena by making it ever that much harder for him to push himself to stand. This not only ensured that a second F-5 would be enough to finish him off, but limited his flurries of life to short bursts which would all fade within seconds, allowing Brock to easily put them out with one or two actions.
  • Fridge Horror: That so-called Catharsis Factor in his SummerSlam 2014 match with Cena? Remember that was originally supposed to be against Daniel Bryan before Bryan had to give up the WWE Championship due to injury. Considering Bryan's been way more popular with "smarks" than Cena's ever been, would it still be as cathartic if Lesnar had hit all those German suplexes on Bryan instead? It gets worse: On top of his history of neck problems (including the injury that made him give up the WWE Championship), after his eventual retirement, it was discovered that Bryan had suffered multiple undiagnosed concussions through his career. The German suplex in particular targets the neck and the back of the head. Do the math. Add to it the horrifying ending of Lesnar's match with Randy Orton at SummerSlam 2016 and it would probably not be an exaggeration to say that WWE avoided a tragedy.
  • "Holy Shit!" Quotient:
    • Not only is he ungodly strong, but he made use of a couple of moves in WWE that guys his size have NO business using. Very early in his career,note  one of Lesnar's finishing moves was a SHOOTING STAR PRESS. This is him in developmental, circa 2001.
    • HE ENDED THE STREAK CLEANLY.
    • Lesnar's freakish physique and jaw-dropping accomplishments have led to him being referred to as some sort of bear-devouring manbeast. It's not without reason.
      Seanbaby: There aren't enough Coors Lights in The Mandalay Bay Events Center to drop a Brock Lesnar after it's made a fresh kill.
    • It's not uncommon on the internet to see Lesnar (whose shoot-fighter-esque gimmick, if it can be called that, is about as down-to-earth and grounded in realism as one could find in the world of Pro Wrestling) spoken of as less a human being or even an animal and more a force of nature.
  • Like You Would Really Do It: The Fatal 4-Way match at Summerslam 2017 was pretty much a Foregone Conclusion. The terms of the match was that if Lesnar lost, he would have to retire from the WWE. His opponents? Roman Reigns, Braun Strowman, and Samoa Joe. Given that Roman Reigns already ended one extremely popular wrestler's career only a few months before, and got X-Pac Heat like no tomorrow for it, Reigns winning would've just shown that absolutely nothing was learned. Braun Strowman winning was also unlikely, since he and Reigns had recently attacked each other rather savagely, and a victory here would mean a heel prevailing over one of the most heavily pushed faces of the company. Really though, the biggest factor was that Lesnar was just barely pushing 40 at the time of the event, and it was doubtful that he would get discarded so easily, especially considering the above factors. Knowing the full context behind the match, it was pretty obvious that Lesnar was going to win.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Clips of him spinning and staggering all over the cage during his fight with Cain Velasquez became quite popular.
    • "That's a stupid question!"
    • BROCK LOBSTER!
    • This superfan who was caught on camera mimicking Brock's pose after he returned to the WWE after Wrestlemania. He's even been introduced at conventions by CM Punk.
    • Bork Laser, after a member of the IWC tweeted during Brock's return in a state of... well, shall we say, OVEREXCITEMENT.
    • Older Than They Think: Brock Lobster & Bork Laser have been around since his original WWE run.
    • Brock has succeeded in everything in life, from NCAA wrestling, to professional wrestling, to Mixed Martials Arts. Now he can add Taylor Swift videos to that collection.
    • Eat. Sleep. Conquer. Repeat.
      • Eat. Sleep. Break. The. Streak.
      • Blood. Urine. Vomit. Repeat. Explanation 
    • "Paul, say something stupid!"
    • "Suplex City," which was born as a result of what was likely just an offhand remark by Lesnar to Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 31 (Lesnar simply yelled "Suplex City, bitch!" after one of his many throws); the commentators played up the concept during the match, including Jerry Lawler warning Reigns not to "Take up residence in Suplex City," which probably helped somewhat with this trope being played straight. His reappearance at Raw post-Money in the Bank 2015 saw him wearing the meme shirt, its design changing based on the city in which WWE is performing, the implication being that Suplex City is wherever Lesnar goes, and it even got its own Stupid Statement Dance Mix in the form of a rap song based on Tyga's "Rack City", though after UFC 200 and his doping violation came out, "Steroid City" has also become a popular counter-chant. 2K Sports also defictionalized Suplex City into a real (and very dangerous looking) city for a commercial ad.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
  • Narm:
    • He's never been a strong promo worker, so they had Paul Heyman do most of the talking during his first run. They didn't get him back at first for his return, leading to this gem during his contract signing: "This is real, John. This is a real feeling that you're feeling, because I...can FEEL IT!" Brock set a record for most uses of the words "feeling" and "real" in an episode of live action television on that night. Following that, Brock himself pretty much demanded they bring Paul back.
    • His screeching screams are unintentionally hilarious, such as the one at WrestleMania 29 (seen here) and the one at the last Raw of 2013 (seen here). On a related note, "LET'S DO THIIIIIIS?!"
    • "I'm begging you, at WrestleMania XX, give me...BROCK LESNAR VS GOLDBEEEEEEEEEEERG!!!"
  • Rooting for the Empire: Despite being pushed as a merciless, remorseless heel of heels, Lesnar gets huge cheers from the adult males in the audience due to basically being the biggest badass in the company by a wide margin. The fact that he has spent 2014 (minus appearances at the Royal Rumble and the aforementioned streak breaking) feuding with John Cena certainly does a lot to make the smarks and in general male fans side with him.
  • The Scrappy:
    • He wasn't the most hated IWGP Heavyweight Champion of all time (that role is probably occupied forever by Tadao Yasuda), but he's still frequently held up as one of the lowest points of New Japan's Dork Age. The main reasons behind his heat were a) he was brought by Simon Inoki, the son-in-law of Antonio Inoki - the man had almost led NJPW to bankruptcy, b) his bringing was seen as an imitation of a failed experiment by AJPW involving Bill Goldberg two years earlier, c) he won the title in a three-way match instead of a proper singles match as the puroresu tradition demands, d) he did not work full-time and his matches lacked title bout quality e) he refused to drop the championship and even give the belt back when he was stripped of it, and f) he refused to get Inoki's fighting spirit slap (It Makes Sense in Context).
    • MMA fans are even more unanimous in hating Lesnar than NJPW ones. Reasons for this are several too: a) he came from a pro wrestling background, specifically WWE, something UFC fans usually dislike, b) he received a title shot for his name value alone, stepping over several fighters who were seen as deserving the chance much more than him, c) he dared to win his title match, which was precisely against a fan favourite like Randy Couture, d) he is considered the ultimate incarnation of Unskilled, but Strong, as his in-cage success (even when he is a decorated amateur wrestler) owes more to his incredible strength and athleticism than to skill or training, e) he notoriusly reacts very badly to being struck in the face, a trait which is unpopular among fans, and finally d) his return to the Octagon in July 2016 was overshadowed by being notified of potential USADA doping violation.
  • X-Pac Heat:
    • Lesnar's background in pro wrestling is constantly mocked and decried by his MMA detractors. When he defeated perennial fan-favorite and UFC Hall of Famer Randy Couture the crowd was solidly against him and roundly booed him during the post-fight interview, and then there was the infamous post-fight rant after his second bout with Frank Mir in which he attacked a major UFC sponsor and concluded with the now-immortal, "I might even climb on top of my wife tonight."
    • He's got a bit of this in pro wrestling, too. Mainly because he's always been honest about only being in it for the money, where as most fans tend to have more respect for wrestlers who are in it because they are truly passionate about the business. 90% of wrestling fans were dishing this out for months over his ending The Streak cleanly, and some either still haven't gotten over it or feel that it's been wasted based on his booking and lack of regularity.

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