Feminist women love Eminem
(Chicka chicka chicka Slim Shady)
"I'm sick of him, look it him, walkin around, grabbin his you know what, flippin' to you know who"
"Yeah, but he's so cute though"
— Eminem, "The Real Slim Shady"
He must be so lonely, he must be so sad
He goes to extremes to convince us he's bad
He's really a victim of fear and of pride
Look close and there must be a sweet man inside?
Ann: Describe your ideal man.
Leslie: He's dark and mysterious, and he can sing. And he plays the organ.
Ann: I think you just described the Phantom of the Opera.
Leslie: (pleased) Mmmm...
— Dating advice conversation from Parks and Recreation.
"No matter what I may do... whether I kick a kitten, tear off your ears, even slaughter innocent people... the world will never cease to forgive my actions. Why, you ask? Why, it is because I am beautiful!!!"
— Boa Hancock explains a startlingly high percentage of this page.
"It's weird, no matter how many people [Thog] kills, the audience still thinks he's lovable."
"People aren't very bright, you know. They say they want freedom, but when they get the chance, they pass up Nietzsche and choose Hitler, because he would march into a room and music and lights would come on at strategic moments. It was rather like a rock 'n' roll concert."
— David Bowie as The Thin White Duke.
Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.
—Henry Kissinger, 56th United States Secretary of State.
"The audience was mesmerized by Brando and so found Blanche—his foil—somewhat ridiculous. At the time even Tennessee agreed that Brando's appearance in the theater was unique and there was no way that Jessica Tandy could compete with him. She seemed all tics and mannerisms while he was the male principle writ large. Tennessee, who loved glory almost as much as his inventions, made no fuss then or later."
"I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Tom Felton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, is not a nice man. It’s a romantic, but unhealthy, and unfortunately all too common delusion of girls...it actually worried me a little bit, to see young girls swearing undying devotion to this really imperfect character...I mean, I understand the psychology of it, but it is pretty unhealthy."
— J. K. Rowling, expressing her very deep concerns about the pervasiveness of this trope.
"Of course I like Jane. I like Tony Soprano and Hannibal Lecter, too. But liking someone doesn't change what they are. The key to dispelling the glamor of evil is to not confuse charisma with virtue."
— Matt Ruff, discussing his Villain Protagonist.
David: I mean, it seems obvious that what Lex really wants is to totally not be a Luthor. Becoming Lex Luthor out of love is just … what? At the same time, you can’t have a totally unsympathetic dick as a lead in a teen drama. But this doesn’t feel like Lex’s slow, tragic fall into greed and power-hunger.
Chris: It’s a weird mish-mash of how we know Lex has to be a villain but they still want him to be likeable...But here, everything gets all muddled. He seems genuinely happy in the dreamworld where he’s friends with Clark and getting the approval of Pa Kent, who calls him “the finest man I know.” Because apparently “the richest man in Smallville” would’ve been too much of a tip-off.
Chris: There’s a lot of Heavy Emotional Conversations going down in this movie, with Nightcrawler and Mystique talking about how she shouldn’t have to change her looks, which is immediately followed by Mystique turning into Jean Grey so she can get some hirsute Canadaustralian lovin’ herself.
Matt: But before anything much can happen, Wolverine comes across the scar from where he stabbed her in the previous movie, and she point-blank tells him she’s into guys who hurt her.
Chris: And yet, the Harley Quinn fan community didn’t immediately jump on making Steampunk Mystique costumes for Comic-Con ’04.
"Almost any Bill Murray role fits on this list, but Ghostbusters is one of the most lovable movies ever made, and 90 percent of that is Bill Murray's fault. If you actually look at the character of Pete Venkman, he's a borderline sex offender who uses electrical torture as a punchline. He tells presumably-dicked representatives of the Environmental Protection Agency that they have no dicks. He mocks the spirits of the dead in a world where he knows they can hear him. If Bill Murray wasn't a comic genius we'd probably be asking why someone made a movie out of some script they found on death row."
Of a villain in a work, being appealing to fans despite being the antagonist of the work, often because of handsome appearance or justifiable motivation
"[Mulder] meets up with this lovely Englishman who is part of the Conspiracy, but he's not all slimy and ugly like the rest of them. He's actually very nice and well-spoken. He may have sold the human race down the river, but I would still kind of like him as my grandpa."
"While I’m not a huge Randall fan or anything, I have been in more than one fandom where I was focused on the villain. (Duh, I’m writing this from a Turbo RP account.) Inevitably with the popular baddies, you see people writing off the really terrible things that they’d done either with 'poor tortured baby!' or 'the good guys MADE them do it!' or 'they’re way cooler than the good guys so they deserve to win and be happy!' or, worst of all, 'who cares if he murdered someone omg he’s totally hot' (this happens more often with male villains)."
"Fandom ruins villains. Every single one. Forever and ever, amen. It doesn't matter what they've done, what they'd do, how bad it was, how much they enjoyed it and how much they want to do it again -- you best believe somebody out there reckons Rapist McNazi is Lord Sexington."
— A comment from a Fandom Secrets post.
At the same time, she needs to be kept in line with her canon appearance. That means no sob stories about her abusive parents, dead parents, evil step moms, or sudden changes of heart. Lightning Dust is an unapologetic, justifiably arrogant jerk, and that's how you need to write her.
— A Rainbow Dash/Lightning Dust ship manifesto