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7th Nov '17 4:47:51 PM naal2
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->''But people often forget that ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} is not a good guy.''[[note]]Context: Deadpool has just killed the guy who saved him ForTheEvulz.[[/note]]
-->--'''Linkara''', WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall
14th Oct '17 5:33:23 PM Luigifan
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->''"[[http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/597610.html?thread=374879850#t374879850 Fandom ruins villains. Every single one. Forever and ever, amen. It doesn't matter what they've done, what they'd do, how bad it was, how much they enjoyed it and how much they want to do it again -- you best believe somebody out there reckons Rapist [=McNazi=] is Lord Sexington]]."''
-->-- A comment from a Fandom Secrets post.

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->''"[[http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/597610.html?thread=374879850#t374879850 Fandom ->''"[[FanDumb Fandom]] ruins villains. Every single one. Forever and ever, amen. It doesn't matter what they've done, what they'd do, how bad it was, how much they enjoyed it and how much they want to do it again -- you best believe somebody out there reckons [[ObviouslyEvil Rapist [=McNazi=] [=McNazi=]]] is Lord Sexington]].Sexington."''
-->-- [[http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/597610.html?thread=374879850#t374879850 A comment comment]] from a Fandom Secrets post.



->I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Creator/TomFelton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, is not a nice man. Itís a romantic-but-unhealthy and unfortunately all too common delusion of girls.
-->-- '''Creator/JKRowling'''

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->I'm trying to clearly distinguish between Creator/TomFelton, who is a good looking young boy, and Draco, who, whatever he looks like, [[{{Jerkass}} is not a nice man.man]]. Itís a romantic-but-unhealthy and unfortunately all too common delusion of girls.
-->-- '''Creator/JKRowling'''
'''Creator/JKRowling''' on the TropeNamer



->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen. Also, unlike the divine-right Jedi, the Empire is a meritocracy...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth...Whatever the case, the important thing to recognize is that the Empire is not committing random acts of terror. It is engaged in a fight for the survival of its regime against a violent group of rebels who are committed to its destruction...I'll take the Empire.

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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars ''Franchise/StarWars'' is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but dictator -- but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen. Also, unlike the divine-right Jedi, the Empire is a meritocracy... The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as [[MoralEventHorizon ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" "evilness"]] because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, murder -- planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth... Whatever the case, the important thing to recognize is that the Empire is not committing random acts of terror. It is engaged in a fight for the survival of its regime against a violent group of rebels who are committed to its destruction... I'll take the Empire.
14th Oct '17 5:05:57 PM Luigifan
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->''Cool motive. Still murder.''
-->-- '''Jake''', ''{{Series/BrooklynNineNine}}''. A quote [[MemeticMutation commonly used]] in response to fans who put Draco in leather pants.

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->''Cool motive.->''[[WellIntentionedExtremist Cool]] [[FreudianExcuse motive]]. Still murder.''
-->-- '''Jake''', ''{{Series/BrooklynNineNine}}''.''Series/BrooklynNineNine''. A quote [[MemeticMutation commonly used]] in response to fans who put Draco in leather pants.






->That's what you've never really understood about {{the undead}}, [[ILoveTheDead Tsukiko]]. You treat them like they're people when they're nothing but bits of skin and bone and dark energy, glued together by magic into the shape of a man. [...] See, the undead are tools. Powerful, dangerous tools. From the lowliest [[EverythingsDeaderWithZombies zombie]] to [[OurLichesAreDifferent Xykon]] himself, the undead are just complex weapons that we make and aim at other people.

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->That's ->[[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech That's what you've never really understood understood]] about {{the undead}}, [[ILoveTheDead Tsukiko]]. You treat them like they're people when they're nothing but bits of skin and bone and dark energy, glued together by magic into the shape of a man. [...] See, the undead are tools. Powerful, dangerous tools. From the lowliest [[EverythingsDeaderWithZombies zombie]] to [[OurLichesAreDifferent Xykon]] himself, the undead are just complex weapons that we make and aim at other people.



->''Sure, Kim Jong-un is a brutal dictator who starves and kills his own people. But he was pretty chill when we hung out!'' Dennis Rodman is a [[AttentionWhore Q-list celebrity]] willing to commit borderline treason just to hang out with a dictator who himself aspires to be a Q-list celebrity. It's all hilarious, until you remember there are millions of people who can't leave this Kingdom of the Absurd without [[TheCaligula taking a bullet to the head.]]

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->''Sure, Kim Jong-un is a brutal dictator who starves and kills his own people. But he was pretty chill when we hung out!'' Dennis Rodman is a [[AttentionWhore Q-list celebrity]] willing to commit borderline treason just to hang out with a dictator who himself aspires to be a Q-list celebrity. It's all hilarious, until you remember there are millions of people who can't leave this [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny Kingdom of the Absurd Absurd]] without [[TheCaligula taking a bullet to the head.]]



->Another flaw I would say is present in the movie is (Sidney) Lumet has obviously fallen for the charm of the Luchese crime family much like the jury of the trial has. Lumet films them as the good guys fighting against a corrupt and '''''[[StrawmanPolitical EEEEEEEVVVVVIIIIILLLL]]''''' District Attorney and shows their fight as something triumphant. Even he seems to forget the fact that these guys are murderers, drug dealers, rapists, thieves, and just about every other vile crime in the books. No matter how much Lumet wanted to present these guys as charming and lovable, I felt sick to my stomach that [[KarmaHoudini these guys fooled so many people and that none of them were really punished.]]

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->Another flaw I would say is present in the movie is (Sidney) Lumet has obviously fallen for the charm of [[TheMafia the Luchese crime family family]] much like the jury of the trial has. Lumet films them as the good guys fighting against a corrupt and '''''[[StrawmanPolitical EEEEEEEVVVVVIIIIILLLL]]''''' District Attorney and shows their fight as something triumphant. Even he seems to forget the fact that these guys are murderers, drug dealers, rapists, thieves, and just about every other vile crime in the books. No matter how much Lumet wanted to present these guys as charming and lovable, I felt sick to my stomach that [[KarmaHoudini these guys fooled so many people and that none of them were really punished.]]



->'Sure, heís an ass' or 'and yes, heís a {{troll}}' or 'heís known for offending people' (which are, for most men, [[TestosteronePoisoning compliments]]). In other words, they took the Worst Possible Person, as one headline read, and still managed to reposition him as merely a prankster, a trickster, a rascal. And who doesnít like a '[[LovableRogue lovable scoundrel]]'?

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->'Sure, heís an ass' or 'and yes, heís a {{troll}}' or 'heís known for offending people' (which are, for most men, [[TestosteronePoisoning compliments]]). In other words, they took [[{{Jerkass}} the Worst Possible Person, Person]], as one headline read, and still managed to reposition him as merely a prankster, a trickster, a rascal. And who doesnít like a '[[LovableRogue lovable scoundrel]]'?



-->--'''[[http://dlisted.com/2015/01/09/bill-cosby-made-a-rape-joke-during-his-show-and-the-audience-loved-it/ Michael K.]]''', "Bill Cosby Made A Rape Joke During His Show And The Audience Loved It"

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-->--'''[[http://dlisted.com/2015/01/09/bill-cosby-made-a-rape-joke-during-his-show-and-the-audience-loved-it/ Michael K.]]''', "Bill Cosby Made [[BlackComedyRape A Rape Joke Joke]] During His Show And The Audience Loved It"
19th Sep '17 8:41:08 AM Vampireandthen
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->Imagine Pennywise taking your virginity, gentle the first time and then he's more dominant and fast. He fucks you over and over again. And afterwards he's quite sweet.
-->--Website/{{Tumblr}}, [[http://pennywiseconfessions.tumblr.com this stuff right here]]
9th Aug '17 4:03:11 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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->''Big Walder Frey is my favorite minor character. This is true in large part because while ruthless ambition is generally corrosive in adults, I find it oddly charming in little kids.''

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->''Big Walder Frey is my favorite minor character. This is true in large part because while [[AmbitionIsEvil ruthless ambition ambition]] is generally corrosive in adults, I find it oddly charming in little kids.''
12th May '17 5:34:54 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', ''The Weekly Standard'', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"

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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...citizen. Also, unlike the divine-right Jedi, the Empire is a meritocracy...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
truth...Whatever the case, the important thing to recognize is that the Empire is not committing random acts of terror. It is engaged in a fight for the survival of its regime against a violent group of rebels who are committed to its destruction...I'll take the Empire.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', ''The ''[[UsefulNotes/AmericanNewspapers The Weekly Standard'', Standard]]'', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"
12th May '17 5:31:59 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"


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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', ''The Weekly Standard'', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"
12th May '17 5:30:46 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"

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-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2540 com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"
12th May '17 5:29:59 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.

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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
12th May '17 5:29:10 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.

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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
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