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12th May '17 5:34:54 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', ''The Weekly Standard'', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"

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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...citizen. Also, unlike the divine-right Jedi, the Empire is a meritocracy...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
truth...Whatever the case, the important thing to recognize is that the Empire is not committing random acts of terror. It is engaged in a fight for the survival of its regime against a violent group of rebels who are committed to its destruction...I'll take the Empire.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', ''The ''[[UsefulNotes/AmericanNewspapers The Weekly Standard'', Standard]]'', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"
12th May '17 5:31:59 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"


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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', ''The Weekly Standard'', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"
12th May '17 5:30:46 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"

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-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2540 com/full/the-case-for-the-empire/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"
12th May '17 5:29:59 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.

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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but dictator--but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
12th May '17 5:29:10 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.

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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...The Empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order. None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They aren't given due process, but they are traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
12th May '17 5:28:23 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts)...Imperial stormtroopers kill Lukeís aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They arenít given due process, but they are traitors.

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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts)...Hutts). The Empire has virtually no effect on the daily life of the average, law-abiding citizen...None of which is to say that the Empire isn't sometimes brutal. In [[Film/ANewHope Episode IV]], Imperial stormtroopers kill Lukeís Luke's aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They arenít aren't given due process, but they are traitors.traitors. The destruction of Alderaan is often cited as ipso facto proof of the Empire's "evilness" because it seems like mass murder--planeticide, even. As Tarkin prepares to fire the Death Star, Princess Leia implores him to spare the planet, saying, "Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons." Her plea is important, if true. But the audience has no reason to believe that Leia is telling the truth.
4th May '17 1:01:17 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->Lucas confused the good guys with the bad. The deep lesson of Franchise/StarWars is that {{the Empire}} is good...Make no mistake, as emperor, [[BigBad Palpatine]] is a dictator ó but a relatively benign one, like [[UsefulNotes/AugustoPinochet Pinochet]]. Itís a dictatorship people can do business with. They collect taxes and patrol the skies. They try to stop organized crime (in the form of the smuggling rings run by the Hutts)...Imperial stormtroopers kill Lukeís aunt and uncle and Grand Moff Tarkin orders the destruction of an entire planet, Alderaan. But viewed in context, these acts are less brutal than they initially appear. Poor Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen reach a grisly end, but only after they aid the rebellion by hiding Luke and harboring two fugitive droids. They arenít given due process, but they are traitors.
-->--'''Jonathan V. Last''', "[[http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2540 The Case for the Empire]]"



->People aren't very bright, you know. They say they want freedom, but when they get the chance, they pass up Nietzsche and choose Hitler, because he would march into a room and [[EvilIsCool music and lights would come on at strategic moment]]s. It was rather like a rock 'n' roll concert.

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->People aren't very bright, you know. They say they want freedom, but when they get the chance, they pass up Nietzsche and choose Hitler, because he would march into a room and [[EvilIsCool music and lights would come on at strategic moment]]s.moments]]. It was rather like a rock 'n' roll concert.
4th May '17 12:56:47 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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-->Website/{{Twitter}}, in response to tweets like [[https://twitter.com/continetti/status/656474629364666368 these]] [[https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/656475848816635904 ones]]

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-->Website/{{Twitter}}, -->--Website/{{Twitter}}, in response to tweets like [[https://twitter.com/continetti/status/656474629364666368 these]] [[https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/656475848816635904 ones]]
4th May '17 12:55:14 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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->'''Ned Resnikoff:''' The internal politics of Franchise/StarWars aren't coherent enough to support any Actually, {{the Empire}} Was Good takes
->'''Jim Newell:''' GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE "LET'S DEBATE THE EMPIRE" DAYS, HUH
-->Website/{{Twitter}}, in response to tweets like [[https://twitter.com/continetti/status/656474629364666368 these]] [[https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/656475848816635904 ones]]
12th Feb '17 4:00:31 PM MrThorfan64
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->''Big Walder Frey is my favorite minor character. This is true in large part because while ruthless ambition is generally corrosive in adults, I find it oddly charming in little kids.''
-->-- Poor Quentyn in his post [[http://poorquentyn.tumblr.com/post/120497478148/big-walder-the-builder Big Walder the Builder]]
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