Just as a note, I cut the Nightmare Fuel entry on the main page with intention to paste into the YMMV page, but upon reading the existing section felt that it would have been redundant. If this assessment is disagreed to I don't have any strong objection to adding it there if it can be done without sounding repetitive.
well, it's been a few years since the topic came up, but I'd like to bring up once again that a fair amount of the content on this page is woefully outdated. items, characters, and other content that have either been dummied out or straight up removed ever since Starbound left beta are still mentioned prominently as if they somehow affect gameplay in any meaningful capacity.
hell, I'd argue for separating pre-launch information into its own section so as not to mislead newer players, even if accidentally
This page is going to need a major rewrite/retooling, as most of the content here is no longer relevant for the game's current state.
Hide / Show RepliesI think we need to split up the page into information about the full version and in general on the top part and information only relevant about the beta on the bottom part.
Some people say I'm lazy. It's hard to disagree.How long until the game qualifies as Vaporware, given the Schedule Slip since last February?
Hide / Show RepliesNeeds a lot longer, given that Wikipedia suggests that beta testing took place in last December.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThis does not appear to be quite the right use of the trope. The trope generally implies that players lose access to something due to game progression and actual game mechanics.
While the players do lose everything in a wipe it is not due to game progression or game mechanics it is due to the fact the game is still in development. The tack on sentence appears to be a response rather then a fixing of the example.
If possible find something that is lost forever due to advancement in the game or due to certain mechanics or we find a trope the information fits better such as games in development still but playable.
Something else to note from the patch notes. Character and ship wipes should no longer be needed but the devs did state there was a slight chance that planet and galaxy wipes might occur in the future.
Also player drops are now persistent as long as you don't exit out of the game as I understand it. So if you are playing on a higher difficulty mode that makes you drop items or the player accidently drops an item from their inventory they should no longer disappear.
- Lost Forever: As core aspects of the game are tweaked during beta, the game will likely require repeated character wipes, forcing everyone to start anew. As of January 26, 2014, the need to wipe the game for patches has been eliminated.
I am torn between agreeing with the sentiment and the fact that drills are just higher tier tools. The other issue is the trope is a character trope rather then a trope aimed at equipment. Is there perhaps something more fitting?
- Overshadowed by Awesome: The Diamond Pickaxe is a good mining tool but pales in comparison to the Drill. The Copper Drill can dig at a similar rate to the Diamond Pickaxe, and drills are much easier to repair compared to pickaxes.
Time Manipulation Mechanic is a red link. I am not quite sure what trope should be used in it's place.
- Time Manipulation Mechanic: When a planet remains uninhabitied for about a minute, its time will automatically reset to just after morning. In single player all a character needs to do is beam up to their ship and wait a short time and it will be morning when the character beams back down to the planet.
Is it a coincidence that Florans, a carnivorous race of plant people, can have a head of a real-life carnivorous plant (Venus Flytrap) or did the devs do that on purpose?
Hide / Show RepliesA carnivorous plant with carnivourous plant like part would just seem like a natural occurence.
It is more akin to a weird hair or physical feature.
Who watches the watchmen?Ok. Lets first take a look at the trope. The devs had already long planned to have airless/hazardous planetary bodies or asteroids. This was mentioned a couple times when they answered questions about planets a while ago. You don't have to research the tech at all so much as get the ability to build it when you trigger certain events in the game. In this case it is defeating the dragon boss.
The second part is that you do not instantly die but slowly suffocate like you were underwater and drowning. As noted in the response which should be integrated into the example if it is kept(repair don't respond), you can shield your character against the cold and teleport back to the ship before you suffocate.
So from the looks of it, the trope really doesn't fit in this case even as an inversion. The feature itself was planned along with other environmental effects but hadn't been implimented yet. The users didn't point out anything that wasn't already planned a while ago.
- You Have Researched Breathing: An inversion of this literal trope: it took a bunch of users pointing it out for it to be impossible to breathe on moons or asteroids without the right gear, at which point any unfortunate character who happened to find himself on one of such planet promptly died.
- Or not. Even a single piece of the Snow Infantry set, easily assembled out of leather gained via hunting, renders the cold of space a non-issue. A sufficiently resourceful player can thus fairly easily mine out a very generous amount of resources by teleporting back to their ship right as their oxygen meter depletes, then returning to continue mining once it fills again.
Another update. This one has multiple changes to environmental features. There is now potentially lethal acid rain. Moons and asteroids now require special gear to visit.
Trees can now be planted on soils. They appear in a pot with a glass dome that slowly cracks and breaks as the tree grows in. Players can create very dense groves of trees.
There is more advanced wiring in place thanks to a new workstation.
Players can plant race specific flags.
There is now a sky rail whatever that is.
There are other changes as well.
Edited by 208.77.174.14 Who watches the watchmen?The Shout-Out Entry is growing out of control. A request for solutions to its runaway nature has been put in Ask The Tropers. Suggestions welcome.
Who watches the watchmen? Hide / Show RepliesI made them into their own page at ShoutOut.Starbound.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.As long as that is real subpage/namespace it works for me.
Edited by 98.168.240.129 Who watches the watchmen?I'm not sure if my perverted mind is reading too far into this, but Florans giggle uncontrollably when they examine a "Torture Rack", an object found in prisons. Is it because of their aggressive nature or...something else?
Edited by 66.214.163.6 Hide / Show RepliesWell given they are savage and often very agressive and lets be honest likely to eat anything fleshy, it could very well be they find the torture rack amusing.
See if you can find a Apex "Thought Reassignment" area with a torture bed and see if they do the same thing.
Who watches the watchmen?Hello,
I don't think the different races should be mentionned like this in the main text of the article. Once the game is released, more tropes will be added to them, and the main text shouldn't list directly the tropes for races: we have the Trope list just below and the characters section for that. Your thoughts?
Edited by 70.33.253.42 Hide / Show RepliesSo you want to put sections for the races into the Characters page now?
At this point it really doesn't matter until the game at least hits beta. Which hopefully will be soon. Everything is still subject to change including the tropes list.
You can include the playable races in the write up but how you go about it could be done differently.
I will do a write up for you guys where that info can easily be integrated into the main blurb.
Edited by 208.77.174.14 Who watches the watchmen?The icon for Glitch genders on the character creation screen are a plug and outlet for male and female respectively. Would this count as an example of Getting Crap Past the Radar?
I have been thinking about adding this, but I'm not sure if it applies as the game hardly has a plot at all.
- Giant Space Flea from Nowhere / Monster of the Week: The bosses, which you summon only to collect the necessary crafting ingredient to progress.
For now Giant Space Flea doesn't fit. The main storyline is not completed. We have in game fluff for characters and the races though.
The first boss summoning item fits into the story line with the player being stranded after fleeing whatever they are fleeing. While the Hostile Saucer spewing Penguin troops is a bit of a surprise the ship itself showing up is not.
Monster of the week really wouldn't apply either. These are deliberately triggered boss battles requiring the player to build items.
The first one is a bit of surprise if you haven't done it before. The second one is a bit more obvious. you build a giant robot with a monsters brain.
Who watches the watchmen?Doed Bananacon (some bacon/banana hybrid, and both bacon and bananas exist) fall under Bread, Eggs, Breaded Eggs?
Hide / Show RepliesBread, Eggs, Breaded Eggs is when there's a list format leading up to to mixing the two items. Not just for when two food items are combined.
This example was under Burn the Witch! but does not fit under that trope.
- The temple guards of every Avian temple will try to kill you on the spot, on the basis that you are trespassing in sacred ground.
When adding or editing examples please make sure recent patches haven't outdated info you are adding. Check the site for changelogs.
I saw a few entries that are not accurate as of the most recent patch.
This should be kept in mind for the future series of updates.
Who watches the watchmen?I think there should be a separate shout out page. I've found a number of them and it seems like there are still more to find, so a separate page may be required to hold them.
Hide / Show RepliesI have seen on other entries that shout outs frequently get put into Trivia. Fitting considering that is what the shout out entries pretty much are.
Who watches the watchmen?Officially, Shout-Out does not go in Trivia because the shout-out is evident in the work itself, despite relying on outside works.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.Still a form of trivia and if it is starting to keep growing better to move it there.
Who watches the watchmen?Neither of these examples are proper use of their respective tropes. The arrows are simply not trick arrows at all. They are just plain arrows. Any special effects are not coming from the arrow but but are stats for the bow. Arrows are part of an infinite ammo scheme of the game.
Starbound may be similar to Terraria but it is not a recycled in space version of Terraria. Neither game are the first to do what they are doing. There have been other 2d side scrolling action adventure style games and even other voxel based space based games.
Starbound set out from the start as its own unique game specifically and delbierately set in a scifi setting.
From the Recycledin Space trope page bolded for emphasis.
- Recycled In Space: Take Terraria, stick it in a space ship, send it into the cosmos, and you have Starbound.
- Trick Arrow: not quite tricky but bows and arrows are unique that they are the only way to get meat and leather from a monster, so if an arrow is the finishing blow for a monster than they have a chance of dropping the aforementioned meat or leather. It's also notable in that a bow is most likely going to be one of the first ranged weapons a character gets, due to being easily creatable with materials found near or on the surface of most planets.
The following was remvoed because it is about a real life person on a works page and not about the work itself.
- The Face: Even if Tiyuri is the director of the team, the one member who is really close to the community is Bartwe, thanks to his very frequent streams, in which he does the coding for the game and answers questions every now and then. He became so popular that there is a cult for him in the official forums.
Would the Perfectly Generic Item, the item that appears as a failsafe if something attempts to create an item that doesn't exist, be considered a glitch entity? Do we even have a trope for this kind of failsafe? If not, I think we should, as it's interesting to me, technically, to see how games handle unexpected situations. Obviously not every failsafe should be covered, as People Sit on Chairs, but ones like this that break the fourth wall might apply.
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