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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 23rd 2021 at 7:01:48 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Needs thorough update, started by Frank75 on Dec 20th 2010 at 4:11:08 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AHI-3000 Since: Jul, 2014
Sep 2nd 2017 at 10:39:38 PM •••

Could someone change WMG.TV Tropes Wiki to just WMG.TV Tropes? The former link is a redirect to the latter, and that messes up the indexing.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
Sep 3rd 2017 at 5:04:42 PM •••

You should ask in the locked page thread, the mods don't always check the discussion pages

Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need Summary
PhantasyBard Since: Jan, 2014
Nov 26th 2015 at 10:25:07 AM •••

Is there any particular reason why "sorted" WM Gs are separated from the others?

Troper_Walrus Since: Sep, 2015
Sep 18th 2015 at 6:24:41 PM •••

I wanted to do something for an Unbreakable WMG, but I had an issue where I couldn't put a spoiler tag in the first line without everything else dropping to the next line. Could anyone tell me how to set it so a WMG can start with a spoiler and have more text after it?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 19th 2015 at 2:23:17 AM •••

Not sure why you want to put a spoiler tag on a WMG page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Troper_Walrus Since: Sep, 2015
Sep 20th 2015 at 1:09:01 PM •••

The WMG entry I put on has to deal with the twist ending. I don't think it would spoil anything, but I just want to be safe.

GuurahkHero Since: Jan, 2015
Aug 23rd 2015 at 11:55:58 AM •••

I just wanna know, do you add new theories at the bottom or the top of a folder?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 24th 2015 at 2:17:20 AM •••

Bottom, I think.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DrNoPuma Esther, my beloved (Troper Knight)
Esther, my beloved
Jul 4th 2015 at 12:56:06 PM •••

Before I got my TV Tropes account, I used to create theory videos and post them on YouTube. I want to put my theories here as well, but how should I do it? I was thinking I could paraphrase the video, and then put a link to the video at the top of the WMG. But what should I say in the link?

This cute cow has such an awesome battle theme.
LongLiveHumour Since: Feb, 2010
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 3rd 2015 at 11:35:47 AM •••

Done. Might want to ask here in the future.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost Since: Jun, 2012
Tired of givin' up the ghost
Jan 12th 2013 at 10:18:00 AM •••

Hey, can we Pot Hole that memetic sentence at the top of the main page? I'm a Puella Magi Madoka Magica fan so I'm pretty aware that's a local meme for us.

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trimeta trimeta Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 3rd 2012 at 2:00:14 PM •••

Reddit has a whole subforum dedicated to these: Would it make sense to include a link somewhere?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 3rd 2012 at 2:53:26 PM •••

Yes. In fact, you should just add a line to the bottom of the description for this.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Sinus Since: Jan, 2011
RedWren the Ephemeral Since: Nov, 2009
the Ephemeral
Apr 9th 2010 at 5:03:55 PM •••

(Copied from archived discussion)

Hats off, for a moment. The premise of this section of the wiki is that the theories being offered are being taken seriously, at least by one nutcase. This is what is known as a comedic premise. The theories are not meant to be 'serious.' The entries are written as if someone believes them.

If you are tempted to make an entry refuting a theory, the discussion pages are there for that purpose. The article itself should be used for tongue-in-cheek "proofs" and "evidence" supporting the theory, or for yet wilder theories.

Some folks have been missing the joke, so we've put up this programme note to make it clear. You may now put your tinfoil hat back on.

Updated by Fast Eddie, to make it as plain as possible that the theories are not 'serious.'

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screamingparrot Since: Nov, 2011
Feb 2nd 2012 at 10:18:32 AM •••

Considering how seriously some folks take Death of the Author, saying osh (me) as the creator originally of WMG, What eddie said is mostly true. As for my intent when I made the page...

WMG are only "serious" in the sense that you could work a case for it being true based on points of logic within the frame of the story, even if the total end logic is obviously reaching (Such as the famous St Elsewhere theory). The idea is me and you KNOW it's not what's probably intended, but the fun of trying to tease it out as if it was. That said, it's NOT a race to come up with the most monkeycheese combination of things in an attempt to be wacky.

For example, "Bowser Jr being Peach's Mother" is appropriate because it's never denied and could "logically" explain certain things, even if it's obviously not true for the tone of the game. plus it happens to be funny. "So-an-so-not-related-at-all-to-Dr-Who is related to obscure-Dr-Who-thing" is a dumb joke that never goes farther than referencing you know a thing.

Real WM Gs in my experience comes almost entirely from bending fanon to its breaking point when fans have a fun back-and-forth and ENTIRELY SELF-AWARE arguing about minutae of people who don't technically exist yet we are treating them as they are and live in a necessarily "real" universe whether its appropriate or not.

That said, WMG _can_ be non-comedic or outright dark if you're still pushing for them to be amusing (entertaining in the intellectual standpoint) in the context of whatever canon is, but for the same reason, arbitrarily including gross or dark themes is just as bad as monkeycheese nonsense.

That897Guy 897 Productions Since: Jul, 2010
897 Productions
Dec 8th 2011 at 10:02:39 PM •••

So, I just had a WMG I posted be removed because it mentioned Alzheimer's Disease and someone came along and called Dude, Not Funny! (even though it was not meant to be funny in the first place, obviously). My response to them was kind of vicious, but fairly appropriate in my opinion (probably not anyone else's). Anyway, later that day, the whole theory was deleted. Upon coming back and discovering this, I put it back with a disclaimer that it's not supposed to be lighthearted or funny. It seems reasonable to me that WMG's should be allowed to be dark and potentially offensive. I know that a lot of people complain about how TV Tropes "is not Wikipedia" and whatnot, but not even Wikipedia is censored. No wiki should be censored. Nevertheless, I'd like to know if there's any kind of standard for things like this around here. Are we allowed to make guesses that mention sensitive issues, if we're not trying to be intentionally offensive? The nature of the guess was not anything insulting; I imagine the only reason anyone was offended was because they can't even handle when Alzheimer's is brought up at all.

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SilverWings Since: Aug, 2015
Jul 29th 2011 at 7:40:34 AM •••

I'm trying to make a WMG page for an anime called No. 6, but since the name is weird so it's not working right. The .//Hack page works, so I know it's not impossible because of the title. Can someone help me?

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pittsburghmuggle Since: Jan, 2010
Aug 9th 2011 at 10:30:37 PM •••

You just go up to the


in the browser bar and replace the "Main" with "WMG" to make it:

And then just press enter. That's what I do.

"Freedom is not a license for chaos" -Norton Juster's The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics
pittsburghmuggle Pittsburghmuggle Since: Jan, 2010
Aug 9th 2011 at 10:25:35 PM •••

I'd like to suggest people who have seen an entire show/movie franchise/book series go into the WM Gs for that show and try to sort them out into folders per season/movie/book.

My reasoning is when people overcome their Archive Panic begin to tackle a Door Stopper of a story/series you typically have to wait until you are completely finished to read the WM Gs, but this can take a while as you wait for the next DVD set come into the library or can afford the next one. For example, Stargate SG 1 is 10 seasons I am trying to get through, and I am 5 along, (waiting for the jerk who's late returning season 6!) and wouldn't mind reading a few of the earlier on WMG's in the meantime - if they were in a neat order and I didn't have to worry about spoiling myself.

I've already started what I would like on two WMG pages: Flash Forward and Falling Skies. But if you have seen every episode of a long runner and want to tackle the page, I think a lot of people working their way along would appreciate it.

Edited by pittsburghmuggle "Freedom is not a license for chaos" -Norton Juster's The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics
Tubal-Cain Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 13th 2010 at 8:29:32 PM •••

OK, so we're not supposed to delete Jossed guesses. What do we do with confirmed ones? And where do we put "serious" speculation?

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FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
Sep 24th 2010 at 7:49:57 AM •••

In the forums, if you like, or here. Serious Sincere conjecture can be here. It's just not the main point. In fact, a little bit of 'real' makes the faux funnier.

Edited by FastEddie Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Scarab Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 28th 2011 at 5:48:27 PM •••

Honestly? I often like the theories that make sense just as much as the off the wall hilarious ones, and sometimes theories that seem utterly crackpot turn out to be right, so then what? It's not a wild guess anymore if it's true. Also not everyone regularly visits, or desires to visit the forums.

Couldn't we... I dunno, have a completely seperate section for "Not entirely madcap, fairly sensible, but still pretty wild until you think about it" examples?

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Ramenth Since: May, 2009
Jan 7th 2011 at 8:14:00 PM •••

What happened to the folders? :/ Subpages weren't really particularly necessary, IMO.

mythbuster Since: Jan, 2010
Nov 22nd 2010 at 9:14:51 PM •••

Is there a maximum amount of guesses that the page can accommodate? Bleach once crashed the server, and the Naruto page seems to be getting dangerously close and new additions aren't taking consistently.

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Meeble Since: Aug, 2009
Dec 28th 2010 at 1:14:14 PM •••

Currently, any page that has reached more than 400,000 characters (which can be seen by looking at the number on the very bottom of any TV Tropes article) is in danger of causing issues, be they server problems, folderization problems, or page breaks.

There is a current effort going on to split pages over this size, which you can read up on here. Several WMG articles have already been split due to this, including this one.

Visit my contributor page to assist with the "I Like The Cheeses" project!