Discussion Horrible / VideoGamesOther

You know, I think Stellar Stone (the makers of Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing and its "sequel") and Game Mill Publishing (the guys who published most of the games Stellar Stone made outside of "Taxi Racer", a game published by BestBuys Interactive) should qualify as horrible gaming companies at hand. Turned out those guys were involved with more games than just Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing (and it's "sequel" that was released a year later), and they all apparently have awful problems of their own accord as well (though clearly not as infamously terrible as Big Rigs was). Other games Stellar Stone made (outside of those aforementioned car racing games) include "Total Pinball 25", "Gettysburg: Civil War Battles" (or "Ultimate Civil War Battles: Robert E. Lee Vs. Ulysses S. Grant" as it was called on its box art), and "Remington Big Buck Trophy Hunt", with arguably the Total Pinball game being the only one that looks passable at best upon first glance. All the other games they made, however, look like they control and feel like complete garbage, especially the Taxi Racer game and Gettysburg: Civil War Battles game in particular.

Would the Zeebo qualify? It was a short-lived console in the Brazilian market, had a paltry library, flimsy controller, and bombed in sales among many other behind-the-scenes issues that guaranteed its doom.

Should we exclude consoles or addons with good games here? The Atari Jaguar CD is a poorly made piece of hardware, but it did have its fair share of good games. And the Amiga CD32 is still quite beloved in the UK, it outsold the Sega CD and enjoys a decent cult following. The only reason why it was suddenly discontinued was because of financial issues with Commodore at the time, which was not solely caused by the CD32.

You know, I strongly disagree with Grezzo 2. It is a mod that was created mainly for the Italian community, since it features many characters that are well known (or more commonly, notorious) in Italy. It wasn't even meant to get known abroad, but it incidentally did, and now us Italians gladly see it for what it is, while gamers from other countries just go full hater on it because they don't get the point.

Considering the recent news of Google Stadia meeting its end by the end of January 2023, think it's safe to say we can consider Google Stadia either a horrible console or at the very least, their presentation on Stadia itself as something that fits this section now? I can certainly make a great case on Google's presentation on Stadia basically shooting itself in the foot real badly by ruining what felt like a very promising console idea at first by the way they explained how it worked to people. Meanwhile, the fact that Google's actually looking to give refunds for users both on the software and hardware departments (the software will no longer work after Stadia shuts down, but the controller might still be useful for PC games through Steam and whatnot), which should say something in and of itself.

Thinking about moving the Team 6 games here and putting that developer under "Repeat Offenders". They're a shovelware developer that made notoriously terrible games like Road Rage and the infamous Flatout 3, as well as both European Street Racing and Super Street The Game.

I removed this from Video Game Generations: First to Fourth earlier:

• Not a game, but game packaging: The large jewel cases for Sega CD games are reviled among collectors and retro gamers for being extremely fragile, often cracking or breaking with very little use, and shattering outright if not stored very carefully. The depth of the case was problematic as well, as discs would not stay held in their slots, necessitating a packed-in foam sponge to hold the disc in place and keep it from rattling around inside the case, and since this sponge was held in place by the case lid, that was even more stress on an already fragile piece of plastic. American Sega Saturn collectors don't get off any easier, as those same cases were reused for Saturn games. It's common to see lots of unbroken Sega CD/Saturn cases go for big bucks, and one of the most demanded aftermarket products by collectors is replacement Sega CD jewel cases.

As I said, this belongs here if it counts, though it reads more like an Idiot Design entry to me.

It's been more than a month since Square Enix's E3 presentation, so I'm re-adding it.

Considering the Square-Enix 2021 Presentation literally only aired yesterday, is it too early to add it to the list?

Would any of At Games' consoles, especially their Sega Genesis systems, qualify for inclusion here? A lot has been said about how poor the emulation quality is on these systems, especially considering that these consoles were officially licensed by Sega.

Should we include the Google Stadia as a horrible piece of hardware for right now? There's been numerous articles talking about multiple, faulty situations at hand in relation to Stadia (including how many gigabytes per hour you can use up against how some IS Ps have data caps), as well as how it delayed certain features they promised initially to 2020 instead of its launch day. Or should we consider it something similar to a game like Fallout 76 where it has delays, but they look to improve upon them in the future?

Should we add the Aladdin Deck Enhancer here? The device is an ultimately pointless add-on that only allows for the NES to take periphery cartridges, absolutely none of which take advantage of the added components in the device, which only exist to make cartridge development cheaper. Only 8 or so games were made for it, including only one exclusive. It’s also known to brick the top-loader NES.

Should Cranky Food Friends, the short-lived attempt to "localize" Puyo Puyo Quest, go here?

It's full of generic foodstuff "characters" that lack any of the likability of the Puyo cast, and never got out of localization testing due to backlash.

Can we actually consider The Town with No Name to be So Bad, It's Horrible? Even though it's functionally bad, a lot of people seem to find the game to be So Bad, It's Good because of its surreal sense of humor and its awful animation and voice acting. People have even called it "The Room of video games."

Why was the Atari Jaguar CD removed? It's infamous for its bad design and how hard it is to find a ''salvageable" unit, let alone a working one. The games are generally considered bad and not worth getting a working unit. The Highlander game might even be a qualifier.

Should Parroty Interactive be here? According to Wikipedia, Pyst got mixed reviews, and Microshaft Winblows 98 somehow got positive reviews.

I found the absolute worst Pokemon Romhack ever. I didn't think any hack released could be this bad.

Commonly labeled worst Pokemon Hacks, such as Touhoumon Insane (a possible so bad its horrible, since its kind of plagarized, and LP'd by troper Caper Nerd), Quartz, Uranium (softlocking issues), any Dark Rising game, I can at least call them hacks.

This hack looks like it could not make it past the alpha stage. There is a pokemon romhack called "Pokemon Ultra," that is completely broken.

The tilesets are clustered up, including movement permissions, and it is impossible to clear the game without Walk Through Walls, multiple times. The warps lead to completely random places, especially when trying to go back, and it leads to a different location entirely, (If you are level ten, there is a warp that leads to an rival ambush that is ten levels higher, yet its the unedited cerulean rival fight) There are some unimaginably nonsensical changes to certain moves; Recover for example, is an attack that does 255 base damage with 50 accuracy, and there are similar moves like that, like smokescreen. And some trainer sprites are vomit inducing and even have backround errors. This includes some very hideous fakemon sprites replacing the starters. And the boss fights, apart from the moves, aren't even edited.

There are also a ton of text errors, and I don't mean just grammer, mispellings, capitalizations. Lots of out of the box sentences, and garbled text. And there is a change in plot... and it is incomprehensible thanks to the text issues.

I'm not making this up. I could put up a link to the nuzlocke forums playing through this hack, just to show to screenshots. It has to be seen to be believed, its so transfixing at how busted this is... http://s7.zetaboards.com/Nuzlocke_Forum/topic/8821058/1/

Question is, where do I put "Pokemon Ultra"? Game mods or fangames?

Is it safe to say that Cryo Interactive counts as a horrible developer, or does the fact that they made a 1992 game based on Dune that was the Trope Codifier for real time strategy games exempt them, even though seemingly every other game they made was a poorly received cash-in on a license?

Should the Atari 5200 be added to this page or not?

I don't think the ouya should be on here" it's not a GOOD by any means, but if nothing else I've heard of people getting use out of it with Kodi and emulators.

Should we add Kill Tweety on this list?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPgjjjYRLI this game btw.

Hi there. I want to tone down and refine some words on the page, please. This time, I'll talk about it. I want to change some of the wording, and tone down on some of them as well, please.

Proposing the Ouya. It was a monumental failure that failed to deliver on many of its promises, had a terrible and overpriced controller, had an awful game library plagued with mountains of shovelware, had an atrocious marketing campaign (as seen on the Advertising page of So Bad, It's Horrible), and was quickly forgotten about soon after its release. All of this happened despite the creators of the system raising $8 million on Kickstarter.

I figured Jim Sterling's opinion about Digital Homicide being the worst game developer would be a decent page quote. Any other suggestions?

Related to Blast Entertainment's entry, can we add Tennings' two-part review that covered six of their games on this list? (I'd be willing to single out of those six, Home Alone and Thunderbirds could be the two biggest offenders.)

Cutting the MDickie entry unless anyone has any objections. It wasn't terribly detailed in the first place, which was one strike against it, but then someone added in some of the games he had worked on while in the same edit saying that some people don't find them that bad (or think they're So Bad, It's Good). Again, it has to fail to appeal to any niche at all to qualify for this page, and enjoying the games ironically for their unintentional comedy factor still counts.

I feel that the "Phoenix Games" entry should be changed to "The Code Monkeys" because they where the ones who developed those games to begin with. Phoenix Games published their titles for the PS 2, and Midas published their games for the PS 1. Just pointing that out.

Should PETA's infamous ripoffs of Pokémon (Pokémon Black and Blue and Pokémon Red, White, and Blue) count? Based on Critical Research Failure and being very lazily done, I think they should be here.