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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
3rd Aug, 2019 10:33:18 PM

Even if it isn't meaningful, I do enjoy the cross-media subpages. If the trope gets cleaned up, I'd still like the cross-media part to be on JFF, since that's what it seems to be- a fun page.

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rjd1922 Since: May, 2013
3rd Aug, 2019 10:51:46 PM

The page says it's only supposed to be for people who share the same full name, though I'm not sure if it could apply to characters with Only One Name.

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bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
3rd Aug, 2019 11:23:17 PM

^ The page states that the entire name must be the same.

  • If it's a legitimate Only One Name situation, then their entire name is the same, so they can qualify.
  • If it's a No Name Given situation, then only half their name is known, so they can't qualify.

So two people named Mike Johnson can qualify, as can two people named Mike who have no last name. But two Mikes with unknown last names, or two Mr. Johnsons with unknown first names, can't qualify.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
3rd Aug, 2019 11:29:44 PM

Another reason why a move to JFF would be appropriate; it's so badly misused that it just looks like a place to goof around and compare characters based solely on their names. It isn't doing anything constructive as a trope, but cutting it outright seems silly, too.

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RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013
4th Aug, 2019 01:04:21 AM

I'd be up for a cut tbh. It provides nothing to the wiki.

bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
4th Aug, 2019 01:52:27 AM

^ It provides something in the "two people named Mike Johnson" case. Whether that's JFF or not has yet to be determined.

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SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
4th Aug, 2019 02:04:26 AM

I thought that the trope was intended to be more than just having the same name but more, two characters with the same specific name from different series active at the same time with no connection between them. Instances such as Dennis the Menace (to quote from the page's example):

  • There are two popular comic strip characters known as Dennis the Menace: the American one created by Hank Ketcham, and the UK one featured in the anthology comic The Beano. Both are young grade-school boys who own dogs and get into mischief, but they're otherwise quite different. To make the coincidence even more astounding, the characters first appeared (in different publications, on opposite sides of the Atlantic) within three days of each other in March 1951.

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razorrozar7 Since: Aug, 2010
4th Aug, 2019 02:26:35 AM

^and that's a good example. pending wick check i think the majority of them are just "character X has the same name as character Y" or even "character Z has the same name as [real life famous person]", which is borderline troping real people.

i can see allowing an exemption for characters that violate the One Mario Limit, but in general i think it needs some tighter guidelines.

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Tomodachi Since: Aug, 2012
4th Aug, 2019 09:36:36 AM

I don't suggest cutting. Is very trivial yes, but it helps to give some insight into other shows and the author. For example, a light novel naming the enemy team Akatsuki brings to mind Naruto, but the fact the protagonist big brother is a villain can help give evidence that the author is aware of the other show.

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bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
6th Aug, 2019 05:27:30 AM

No matter what happens, we're cutting a shitload of examples here for not actually being examples.

(And the One Mario Limit is its own thing; examples of other Marios go on that page, not this one.)

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