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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009

21st Jun, 2019 07:39:49 PM

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I had deleted some "meta" moments from Awesome.Pokemon Detective Pikachu under the impression they weren't allowed/were overly gushy, but they were reinstated with another troper citing their prevalence on MCU pages. I don't want to edit war, so what should be done about them?

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• When the trailer was released, it completely overshadowed the teaser trailer for Toy Story 4, which was released a few hours earlier and had gotten plenty of attention in itself. It's also beaten the Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019) trailer and that came out in July 21st, almost 4 months ago when the Detective Pikachu trailer was released. It also got over 1 million likes and is the only non-superhero Hollywood film to do so until the trailer for The Lion King 2019 came out. The other films to do over 1 million likes before the film's trailer are Avengers: Infinity War, Venom, and Captain Marvel. After the trailers got released, the only other movies that achieved 1 million likes was The Lion King, Spider-Man: Far From Home, both trailers for Avengers: Endgame and Joker. To say this movie got a lot of attention compared to most films of 2019 would be an understatement.
• Jordan Vogt-Roberts concluded that the film has similar amounts of charisma and quality to Iron Man.
  • While critical consensus doesn't mirror the idea of putting Detective Pikachu on par with the film that started the most successful movie franchise in history, this movie still gets to claim the title of first wide-release video game film adaptation to avert the video game movie curse. That's nothing to sneeze at.
  • It made number two in its first week at the box office right behind Endgame. Granted many figured it wasn't going to knock Endgame off its throne, but coming that damn close. Yeah, nothing to sneeze at indeed and a testament to the staying power of this series.
    • While worldwide it may have come in second to Endgame, in China it came in at number one.
• Props to the visual effects team and director in that Mr. Mime's inclusion is this. Rob Letterman revealed in an interview they almost didn't get to have Mr. Mime in the film because of its creep-factor notoriety and Uncanny Valley design. He hired an actual mime to rehearse the scene with, and also had to pitch the interrogation scene in person to the president of The Pokémon Company and he gave them the go-ahead, and then they still had to come up with a realistic design. Many people he talked to still weren't sure it could be pulled off, then when they filmed the scene, he described it as "the most awkward, weird thing to shoot", and he considered cutting it since he didn't think it would work. Given the fan reception of the end product, it's a cinematic marvel that they succeeded.
• In order to sell that she was actually carrying Psyduck around, Kathryn Newton had to do the chase scenes with 40 lbs of weight strapped to her back.
• Pokémon Detective Pikachu has a 65% Fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes as of May 17, 2019, making it the first live-action film adaptation of a video game to hold a "Fresh" rating. And while critical reception has been lukewarm, most chalk it up to the film being so awash in Pokémon lore that it's difficult to non-fans to fully appreciate the story and humor. In that regard, fan reception for the movie has been very, very high. After all these years, Video Game Movies Suck is finally averted.

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gjjones Since: Jul, 2016

21st Jun, 2019 08:38:32 PM

If my calculations are correct, the Nightmare Fuel and Tearjerker are only NRLEP. Awesome can include meta examples.

Edited by gjjones He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.

wingedcatgirl MOD (Holding A Herring)

22nd Jun, 2019 05:27:34 AM

Dunno whether meta examples are okay or not, but the other troper is incorrect that "other pages do this" is a reason for allowing something — many pages contain things we're not actually supposed to have on the wiki.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.

crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010

22nd Jun, 2019 06:11:44 AM

Earlier ATT thread and mod post suggests that meta awesome is allowed, but discouraged.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.