Hi
Agreed, voting cut.
Goku Black
Is their some rule that was added against fetishy works in general I missed as I don't see that in Administrivia.The Content Policy And The 5 P Circuit? So I'm wondering why its being brought up a couple of times now.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
HoMM Fan
This has come up again and again and I still see no reason to keep it. voting cut.
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The impression I've gotten when material with this particular fetish comes up is that it's a little too close to the borderline as far as 5P standards go, so that alone is likely enough to get it the Cut.
That said, the main reason I even dared make the page in the first place was because, for all that "blatant fetish material" is an accurate description, the series is actually not at all pornographic. No sex or nudity to be found anywhere and I belive it was originally published on a mainstream site. Take outthy fetish aspect and its just another ecchi harem manga. I did vet page in the 5P thread beforehand
and got, if not a yes, then at least not a no.
Like I said up top, none of that probably matters given the general reaction to this specific fetish, but I figured it at least worth mentioning.
Edited by sgamer82 on Jul 22nd 2022 at 3:37:48 AM
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
To be specific, it's a diaper fetish work. While there's some gray area here with this particular fetish and outright pedophilia, it's probably cutting it too close here.
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Goku Black
Oh, I understand removing this one. but I saw that Fetish work used to cut in a couple of other threads for stuff like...fat women and BDSM so am wondering what's going on?
Because even most professional authors will include stuff they like so removing a work like that just for containing a fetish is probably going to cause an issue?
Edited by miraculous on Jul 22nd 2022 at 3:55:25 AM
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
It's likely the difference between "containing a fetish" and "centered around a fetish"
Goku Black
Yeah but the fact is the line for that can be really unclear.
For example Chained Soldier is totally intended to be a BDSM work but it does have plenty of like actual plot and characters (and no I'm not bringing up ghe work here since its pretty harmless)
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
People have also just become squicked out by fetish stuff in general, possibly due to the epidemic of one-handed troping turning many tropes gross. So it might just be oversensitivity to the concept. Either way, the fetish issue can probably be discussed at the general policy thread.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Voting not cut because I really don't think "diaper fetish" is the same as pedopandering, and there seems to be a plot.
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
We have precedent in cutting works that are primarily fetish material, even if they feature no traditional nudity or sex. I'm not reading this, but if it's just an excuse to show as many pissed diapers as possible so people into it can get off, then cut.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
Leaning keep if there's no actual NSFW or pedophilia stuff in it. Even if it is a blatant fetish of the author, if it's not either of the above then its not against policy.
Edited by Orbiting on Aug 29th 2022 at 2:29:57 PM
Goku Black
When did we do that?
Breakfast With Sister, just over a month ago. Off the top of my head, I can also remember Baby Fat got cut for being little more than vore fetish spank-bank.
Goku Black
Yeah but those don't have any plot at all as noted in that thread.
This one doesn't sound like it doesn't have one at all.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Take out the fetish aspect and it's primarily an ecchi harem manga.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Yeah, what's "primarily fetish material" is a massive judgement call especially since pretty much anything can be a fetish and any creator can slip their interests into their work. So we don't go off of fetish content alone.
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Goku Black
Like I mean Totally Spies! for one is also not exactly subtle about what its aiming for either.
It's why I'm just keeping an open mind for each work reviewed here to see if they at least have a plot otherwise.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Bumping so that it doesn't remain stuck between locked threads.
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the Retromancer
28 chapters.
His other classmate girl Morei (introduced with Imagine Spot of barely making to the toilet) has a crush on Oone and jealous he's with Ichigo, and notices the two in embarassing pose and assuming he has a fetish, and starts wearing a diaper as well.
In sheer coincidence Oota's sister needs to emergency use the toilet (not shown) when Morei comes over and she showcases him her diaper, to his confusion. Turns out in elementary school she peed herself (shown) and Oota covered for her, so she's in love now.
Two girls have a rivalry while Oota is stupid and thinks it's a diaper trend.
Oota and Ichigo happened to be on the same train, she wets herself and and he has to cover for her.
New girl Muni (3rd year) has an actual diaper fetish and teases Oota with her wear and pees when excited. Forcing him on a date, she asks him to change her diaper but he decides to get the hell out.
Oota, Ichigo, and tailing Morei go to a cinema. Ichigo is annoyed with Oota having a drink but manages to hold herself. Spying Morei gets distracted bt the film.
Morei and Oota get stuck in a shed, try to climb out and Morei falls on Oota's face while barely managing to hold in.
Ichigo gets knocked out in a basketball, so Oota carries her to the infirmary. Because it would be visible under gym uniform, Ichigo did not have a diaper today. Ensues wetting the corridor with other named girls as witnesses. So now everyone is up to speed with everyone's deal.
Muni stalks Oota into restroom. To avoid being seen, he drags her into the cabin until other boys leave, she pees in her diaper in front of him and in her head won something.
Morei comes to Oota's home, tries making him change her diaper, fails and has to leave.
Muni teases Ichigo with undressing her in front of Oota, he tries to interfere, slips and lands into her wet belows.
Flashback shows Oota was nice to Ichigo and Morei since they were kids, and the peeing problem was allegedly caused by a matchmaking newyears wish.
Oota's sister can't sleep, so she sleeps in Oota's room. To noone's surprize, she wets her bed overnight. And Morei just decides to come over mid-cleaning.
Morei, Oota and Ichigo are at the pool. Morei rushes to a toilet, fails, and a nice child covers for her. Ichigo has to do it in-water.
Oota and the trio are at festival. Yuukatas weren't ruined, but they couldn't find a bathroom.
Ichigo is running a marathon at school sports while Oota cheers her on. Guess what makes her run faster than others.
On the school festival Muni promotes to Oota a diaper cafe with an Image Spot. It's a a normal maid cafe. She falls over exhaustion, he carries her to med room, she wets herself and asks him for a change, but he ditches her and leaves.
Oota's sister is buying diapers for herself, meets Ichigo and two bond over. Oota find them at his house mid-demonstration and leaves.
Morei falls and scraps her knee. Oota carries her on her back and she pees mid-way.
Ichigo tries to do a love confession without wetting herself. She fails at both.
In the ending the entire harem invites Oota to a park and make him say whoose diaper he likes the most. He tells them to screw off and freindzones all three. Muni is about to graduate, Morei learns to respect her alleged rival and Ichigo is confident enough to speak without peeing... until Muni scares the other two.
"And they all peed happily ever after." (quoted verbatim)
- Porn: It's not even erotic/ecchi. Diapers are wide enough, and even regular panties seen lack shading. Has a few suggestive-sounding jokes as teasing.
- Pedo: Aside a not-looking-like-16 and a 14-15 using a toilet obscured, and a fat diaper pantyshot per-chapter, there isn't anything to call pandering.
- Plot: It just goes through every romcom cliche event in the book but-with-gimmick with no deeper message.
- Fetish: Absolutely. Every chapter is an excuse to show either allegedly wet or soaking wet diapers, or soaking wet clothes on either of the Unwanted Harem. On saving grace, MC is indeed not into diapers.
Whatever to keep it or cut it is a coin flip to me, as the Fetish Fuel condition still confuses me, but I'll lean on ![[tdown]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_down_emoticon_3571.png "[thumb down]"){kind=small}
. The story is really nothing more than "4 girls piss themselves in different situations while the boy is a bit of dumb", so not like we'd lose anything.
Edited by Amonimus on Sep 21st 2022 at 12:21:18 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Yeah... This is kinda what I was dreading it would be like.
"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
HoMM Fan
Seeing as we cut Breakfast With Sister for being a thin plotted work with the main focus being on fetish stuff, even if it didn't qualify as standard porn, I say we cut this too based on the post
Hi
Agreed on cut.
Reiterating my keep vote. A mess of harem cliches is still a plot.
Edited by Ramidel on Sep 21st 2022 at 7:10:39 AM
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
The flag here for OmujoOmutsuJoshi was sent with the rationale