The Pokédex - Extended Fanon Edition

Maybe it provides a higher line-of-sight for the head? I mean, the Drapion could just rear up its body and have a clear view of the land around it.

But then again, it's your entry. You were pretty brief, which I liked.

edited 23rd Dec '10 9:46:24 PM by Scardoll

^x16 I thought it was pretty obvius that the ditto were transforning and then doing it.

Small gripe about the Skorupi, it says "small bug" in the discription. Scorpions are Arachnids not insects, and definitely not proper bugs.

I'm off one day, and three fleshed-out articles turn up? With promise of a Nido expansion? *whistles*

I'm gonna go index now. I think reservations not mentioned since December started can expire on New Year's, sure.

You still planning to talk to your LUG whenever they meet, Silent?

Indexing done. And Napalm, you can probably ignore Rocket connections, yeah.

I'm going to think a bit about some entries I may want to start, but my grandma's computer isn't very comfortable to work on right now. (And corrupts the Missingno text, blah.)

edited 24th Dec '10 11:20:01 AM by Tangent128

Yeah, Tangent. As I mentioned way back then the meetings are about this time of the year. I already contacted one of the bosses of bosses at the Omniscient Council of Vagueness about what are our chances, with us not being an actually FOSS-related project, and it's actually not that bad as I thought. Would you rather discuss this via private or here in the thread?

As for the Nido entry, yeah, with expansion. The original article wa sabout 12K. With Luigifan's first corrections and the bits I put up from the Aron entry and similar it grew to 18K, which is still nice. Then I added the social structure and some other stuff and tried to trim it down and keep it at bay, and when I finally stopped to check it it turns to be about 25K. And I haven't started with the childraising or the royal evo backgrounds yet. So Yeah...

EDIT- maybe I could post or PM some transcripts to those interested to see if it is not becoming too long? Then again, I think that beyond the inavailability of movelist tables, at least the entry is becoming more useful than, say, Bulbapedia

Even more EDIT- Tangent, any chance that you can install Notepad++ or a similar text editor in that PC? That should for the most part prevent any entry from breaking...

edited 24th Dec '10 11:48:03 AM by SilentReverence

I'm in Chrome, but the Zalgo is broken. Maybe it's just a font issue. "é" shows up, fortunately.

But anyways. As long as the post doesn't cut off the entry, it should be OK, though detailed entries like that are one reason we may want to move the articles out of a thread form. About that, PM or post, whatever seems appropriate.

I'm thinking a bit about Snover, being in a room with a Christmas tree and all.

So that is a good time to ask if anyone knows what the character count limit for wiki articles. Or maybe not — if Troper Tales is of any indication, it is a very, very high number. As per forum posts, I'll just present an insert / abstract of the new entry version here, since the entry is indexed in both places anyway.

I'll be trying to contact the Council next week, since they are arranging some seminars for March right now. So far, the biggest entry barrier is that we (the Pokédex project) are not FOSS-focused, meaning in order to acquire the subdomain we might need to put upsome cash in advance. However, talking to the boss of bosses he tells me that if my group can convice another FOSS-related group to sign in in the meantime, we should be able to sign up n a somewhat sneaky-but-still-OK way and avoid payment for the first year.

After that, I'd guess it'll depend on how are we going to drive the project anyways, since the hosting is intended to be delivered as an assistance to just-born projects that are expected to be active for at least a minimum amount of time, I think two years, before they either solidify and get their own domain/space, or merge/affiliate to other entities...

I'll let you guys know more the next time the Council of Vagueness deciced to speak something less cryptic again.

edited 24th Dec '10 12:29:25 PM by SilentReverence

I suggest we leave the project on this wiki until it gets a fair bit of notoriety, no sense putting it on a separate site if no one is going to look at it.

Uhhh, yeah. I'm just gonna stay out of this new domain business, seeing as I have no idea what in the flying monkeys you guys are talking about. Though I do agree that no movement should be made until this project gets more popular (I only stumbled upon it by accident when I searched the word 'Entei'. As in, third movie Entei.)

On another note, may I tackle Tropius? I always think of it when I come to this site.

It's been decided, as far as I remember, that because of its mascot status Tropius will be collaborative, much like Eevee.

Ooooooh! That actually sounds like a ton of fun!

That was decided a while back... but we probably need to actually do it.

Motion to start the Tropius entry for Christmas?

rmctagg09 says, "Aye."

seconded!

Well, a couple of minutes hours too late but that doesn't kill the intention, now doesn't it? It's not exactly my style, but I hope you all have a very nice and merry X-mas. And, as a gift, Here you have Nidoran entry v3rc. The link takes you to the wiki version which is usually the most up-to-date, for as a backup, show of progress, point of discussion and whatnot, here I'll leave you two excerpts from the new article.

Due to their strength and tenacity, a Nidoking's first horn thrust to hit is already a irrecoverable injury at least in theory. Thanks to Conference regulations this will not be the case for trained Nidoking, who are required to have their horns blunted for admission to tournaments. Unfortunately, this is something that Nidoking deems as the highest offense and humiliation; he'll react poorly to it which is why Trainers should not try on their own — any Nidoking undergoing such a procedure will most likely kill their own Trainer if anything less than the winner's trophy in a golden platter is achieved in the tournament, leaving only the most experienced Trainers who rely on periodic tournaments as a manner of training to have Nidoking gradually more accepting of the procedure.

Nidoqueen are not exactly less dangerous in battle, in particular if there are younger morphs nearby, which makes any caringness vanish the instant a Nidoran♀ starts crying for help. It is actually deemed an effective double battle strategy in underground circles to have a Nidoqueen trained with varied techniques to "just" send her out when another Nidoran is hurt, and let her do as she pleases.

That's not to mention what happens when both royal morphs are to be faced together. Stressed Nidoqueen naturally releases pheromones that suggest the younger forms to calm down and stay together, yet have the terrifying effects over Nidoking to incite them to unleash their anger against everything not Nidoran shaped in sight. Considering that the females are prone to cuddle and protect their and others' offspring and the males extend their territoriality to whatever a female seems to care about, it is somewhat of a dream's nightmare to have a well-trained Royal Couple, whose poisonous jabs and swipes will hurt even more than usual, suddenly appear when you are hunting some young morphs.

After a period of three months, the cubs are born, usually one in the case of the younger forms, but two or three in the case of the adults. The cubs are born bald and quickly grow fur and adapt to the darkness of their dens. After being fed by the mother for four days, the family separates temporarily with the males taken away by the father and the females taken with other newborn females under the watch of several Nidorina. The family stays together for the most part for the next half year, with the cubs learning the social skills under the care of the Nidorina at the core of the colony, while passing Nidorino will come from the outer circles to teach the young males the arts of battle.

As seen, parents in the wild will begin teaching their cubs to survive as early as four days old, and they will also get them used to be on their toes at all times any same-gendered Nidoran is around, always a potential contestant in their future. As a result of this, many members of the species grow to extend such rivalry to any foe whom they naturally perceive as of their same gender. The one notable exception is between Nidorino "buddies" as will be noted in the "Social Structure" section.

This new version has more (much more) social structure, more diet, more childbearing (the previous version's procreation rate made NO SENSE and I SHOULD FEEL BAD), more Nidoqueen, more warnings against the Cuteness Proximity, more inter-entries references, a surprise section at the end, mini-changelog, credits, slightly better organization, better styling, hopefully more correct grammar, and of course more text: this entry is about ~40K in size, which as of now is about 1/3rd longer than my thesis.

As usual comments are welcome. Thanks to Luigifan, Crow (whoever he is), the authors of the Aron and Rhyhorn entries, and others are in order. I hope the bit of Shameless Self-Promotion at the end is not unwelcome. Now, since I haven't been able to come up with something nice, I'd actually welcome some help to find adequate artwork for the entry.

Also, happy to be reminded of the Aerodactyl article. Reminds me of a very cool one-shot fic I read once where a Charizard, a "king of the skies", is put in his place by a newly-released-to-the-world girl Aerodactyl.

Be seeing you later, people!

You're welcome Silent Reverence. With how long you've made your article on the Nidoran Line, it makes me feel somewhat inadequate, but really, great job man.

Impressive! Though surely the iPhokéx hasn't been around for that long... and Nidoking is still a bit much petty. But yeah, an article to inspire to.

Okay, how should we go about handling Tropius now?

You think maybe we should assign segments of the article in question and write as much as we can think up for that particular section? Like one person is in charge of Social Structure, another is in charge of Hazards, etc?

Possibly. Though we do want to make sure the sections will be consistent, so don't expect the final version to match the first draft.

You want to call a piece? Or just give some general thoughts?

I kind of feel like doing a Trainer's Tips section of sorts, or maybe some bleedly blah on its habitat. Does a Trainer's Tips section even exist on the basic format? I saw 'Other' that might be a good place to put it. If not, TO ROUTE 119!!

edited 25th Dec '10 9:49:57 AM by CalamityJane

Sections are flexible, but things can be reshuffled later anyways.

Well then, just to be on a safe side, I'll go with Habitat. Off I go to the route where you can't use your bike! If my ears aren't bitten off by linoone I should have the section in about an hour or two.

@Calamity: Wear a white hat (and tell everyone it's your hair).

@Tangent: that's why it's not the definitive version yet. I'd like to search for another product, maybe a Sony one, but haven't managed to find one old enough that has the naming scheme and the broken/bricked/traitorous media perception that iProducts have. Perhaps because these are pretty much the first generations of products with such capabilities and problems....

As per Nidoking, yeah, I'm still trying to bring it down a notch, asked some people for advice.

The final v3 should be around NYE.

edited 25th Dec '10 10:06:21 AM by SilentReverence

I might handle hazards or training tips.

On another note, the Luvdisc article is gonna have to be put on Rolling Updates too. It too got obliterated along with the Zubat article.