OK, now I'm confused. FMA has far fewer fights and more story than most shonen I've been exposed to. I thought seinen was supposed to be characterized by deeper and more mature plots and characters, which FMA has out the wazoo?
I don't think that's what seinen means.
You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!Seinen and Shonen are demographics, actually....
Nope, "seinen" just means the target group is older.
EDIT: Not adressed at the above troper, who is correct.
edited 14th Sep '09 2:36:31 PM by LatwPIAT
Things I like: Ghost In The Shell |Serial Experiments Lain |Eden: It's an Endless World! |Sid Meiers Alpha Centauri |Aeon Natum EngelCase in point, Death Note is a Weekly Shonen Jump title just like Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, Yu-Gi-Oh, Shaman King, The Prince Of Tennis, Bobobobo Bobobo...
And Ikki Tousen (a.k.a. "Battle Vixens") is seinen.
"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara HarukoGenshiken, Genshiken, Genshiken. Black Lagoon is pretty good, too.
Blame! and Vinland Saga.
edited 14th Sep '09 4:31:21 PM by Charlatan
Gungrave. Starts out looking like some kind of Hellsing knockoff, but hang in there 'til the second episode - it's a pretty damn neat mafia story. Tamer than The Sopranos and whatnot, and I wish they'd developed Bob and Lee's characters a bit more, but still worth a look.
A True Lady's Quest - A Jojo is You!Third for Vinland Saga, OP tells me you like Berserk, and if that's the kind of style you're looking for, just different, I'd say that's your best bet.
20th Century Boys is the only correct answer.
edited 14th Sep '09 4:54:21 PM by Beta Ray
You are not alone, and you are not strange. You are you, and everyone has damage. Be the better person.You know, I can't believe that I completely forgot Baccano! (especially considering my ridiculous pimpage of the the series at all other times).
Short summary: awesome
Longer summary: Pulp Fiction with alchemy...and more awesome.
edited 14th Sep '09 4:57:13 PM by Sparkysharps
"If there's a hole, it's a man's job to thrust into it!" — Ryoma Nagare, New Getter RoboWait, Pulp Fiction and alchemy?!? *Adds to list*
well, you're right actually. Seinen is a demographic, not a genre. I'm aware of that, but it's like The Creature having inherited the name of Frankenstein. that's not his name, but it might as well be. So many people are associating Seinen as a genre that they've Got Me Doing It. Sincerest apologies.
When i say awesome as hell, i mean either Badassery or Made Of Win writing, ideally both.
So yes, i will take Shonen recommendations as well, but if it takes too much after Dragon Ball, i've no use for it. I want something a little more... mature. In a good way, of course.
edited 14th Sep '09 5:28:50 PM by Schitzo
ALL CREATURE WILL DIE AND ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BROKEN. THAT'S THE LAW OF SAMURAI.Blame! is pretty badass, but it's also very strange, and not in a Widget Series way.
[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.I'll repeat it: Hellsing. Darker and Edgier, oh yeah.
Since you said you didn't mind something more shounen-y...obligatory Gurren Lagann recommendation.
It's got plenty of badassery, but it's far from dark, so I don't know if you'd be interested. Still, if I didn't say it someone else would've.
edited 15th Sep '09 5:14:44 PM by Nyktos
I guess it is.I'm pretty sure Gurren Lagann isn't seinen, Nyktos.
You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!...which is why I didn't post it until he said "I will take Shounen recommendations as well".
edited 15th Sep '09 5:16:25 PM by Nyktos
I guess it is.Ah. My bad for teal deering.
You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!Definitely Twentieth Century Boys.
It starts a bit slow, with weird art, but once the story takes off, you will hear yourself saying constantly Holy Shit. The story is really epic and i don't mean it the Internet synonym for 'awesome',but the original meaning of the word.
edited 15th Sep '09 6:42:11 PM by eX
Thank ye, folks. I'll get started, and probably even do a liveblog once school's done.
ALL CREATURE WILL DIE AND ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BROKEN. THAT'S THE LAW OF SAMURAI.
... and a damn good one, with lots of awesome.