Not Thriving: Quick Draw Decision

Note: This thread was proposed by kundoo.

Quick Draw Decision has only 19 wicks (or 10 non-Administrivia wicks) since 2011. I can't pinpoint the problem with it; the description seems fine, and the trope (a character is given a supposedly hard moral choice, but instead of agonizing over it makes the decision instantly) does look like it's a thing. Possibly a rename will help.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

Paging ~kundoo to the thread. Anyway, I'd be fine with renaming. We could add it to Pages Needing Wicks and Tropes Needing Examples if we do that.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

The name seems like the culprit: Not having heard of this trope before, it instantly made me think of a Wild West shootout, which is under Showdown at High Noon and Quick Draw. I dunno if it's confused anyone else, though I'm not sure what to rename it too. Quick Choice? Quick Decision To Make?

Edited by harryhenry on Oct 13th 2022 at 12:53:01 PM

I agree; that name sounds like it's about quick-drawing as in a duel. Another few name ideas: Subverted Moral Dilemma? Comically Fast Decision?

I've also thought it would be a wild west trope, but it turnes out to be something alike Comically Little Hesitation (No Hesitation Gag).

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup

Quick Decision To Make sounds the best out of the suggestions (and I'm surprised we don't already have a trope with that name), but the others could probably be redirects.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2022 at 3:18:36 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

I like 4.2, 5.1, and 5.2

I think the name should better showcase that the character is faced with a difficult moral dilemma more, otherwise we could get examples of anyone making a quick decision for any problem.

Something like Tough Problem Quick Decision? Not Agonizing Over Moral Quandry? Moral Quandry Made Easy?

I think the first one is the clearest.

Is Rule of Funny important or is it not?

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup

We should probably leave off such requirements.

I like Tough Problem Quick Decision

And yeah, omit the Rule of Funny part. Examples that are Played for Laughs can just be listed as such.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2022 at 7:35:31 AM

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I was basing on it being at Comedy Tropes, but if being funny isn't required then maybe Unexpectedly Fast Decision.

Does the trope require an in-universe acknowledgement of both "difficult" and "quick"? Because fictional characters making immediate life-and-death decisions is normal.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup

If it's listed on Comedy Tropes, we can remove it if being Played for Laughs isn't required.

...But now that you mention it, maybe it is Chairs.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2022 at 8:23:12 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

Double posting because I looked at the on-page example list and now I think Amonimus is right in wondering if this might be Chairs, considering all the entries that don't amount to much other than "character has to make a decision".

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 13th 2022 at 8:25:00 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

oh well if none of the examples actually describe a character being faced with a complex moral/ethical decision and making a quick decision anyways, then I'd be ok with cutting the trope and yarding the idea

Edited by amathieu13 on Oct 13th 2022 at 10:05:08 AM

How these on-page examples sound like to me.

• A character does something bold in a dangerous situation without hesitation.
• ZCE
• A character picks something before hearing (the rest of) the question.
• .
  • A character picks something before hearing (the rest of) the question.
  • A character does something bold in a dangerous situation without hesitation.
• .
  • A character does something bold in a dangerous situation without hesitation.
  • A character does something bold in a dangerous situation without hesitation.
  • A character replies fast enough that another character is surprised.
• ZCE
• .
  • A character replies fast enough that another character is surprised.
  • A character is asked to answer quickly and makes a blunder.
  • A character is asked to answer quickly and makes a blunder.
• A character replies fast enough that another character is surprised.
• A character picks something before hearing (the rest of) the question.
• A character picks something before hearing (the rest of) the question.
• ZCE (No decision, just interrupted monologue)
• ZCE
• .
  • A character picks something before hearing (the rest of) the question.
  • A character picks something before hearing (the rest of) the question.
  • A character picks something before hearing (the rest of) the question.
• A character replies fast enough that another character is surprised.
• A character replies fast enough that another character is surprised.

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There aren't many examples anyway, so I wonder, if there are tropeworthy concepts, the page would need to be made from scratch anyway.

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 13th 2022 at 5:34:51 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup

Yeah, if there's anything to salvage here, we should Yard it and cut this because the execution here was poor.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

Is the trope name really the cause of the poor performance or is it just a rare trope?

Well, no... if you read the other posts you'll see that there's also issues with the examples.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness

Cut and yard.

Right, if none of the examples actually fit the description, then I'm changing my vote to cut and yard as well.

to cutting and yarding