To-do list: Move examples that fit one of the tropes on the Knife Nut disambiguation page and remove ones that don't, such as characters who wield a knife with no further meaning.
unable to figure out the correct definition. This didn't bode well, and the Knife Nut Wick Check done by myself and Crossover-Enthusiast shows similar issues. Before we get further into the discussion, here's the quick results:
- Knives as a Weapon of Choice: 20/79 or 25%
- Unhinged Knife User: 11/79 or 14%
- Knife Fetishization: 2/79 or 3%
- General Knife Usage: 12/79 or 15%
- ZCE: 24/79 or 30%
- Other: 10/79 or 13%
Besides ZCEs, the most common form of usage is describing a character who uses knives as their Weapon Of Choice. However, this only makes up about a quarter of the overall wick check, and presumably, a quarter of the usage the trope receives. Granted, that's still about 1500 wicks, so that's not too bad- however, I also question the tropeability of a trope that's just "WOC, but with knives". The categories that actually implied something behind the usage, Unhinged and Fetishization, only make up a much smaller percentage, but have tropeworthy meanings behind them and the use of the knives.
Then there's the ZCE...Which leads me to believe this is suffering similar issues that appearance tropes do. That is, people will pothole it and use it without context and without meaning, but "Character Uses a Knife" isn't a trope as much as "Character Is Blonde" isn't a trope.
Some options, not all of them mutually exclusive:
- We could redefine this as "Character uses Knives as a Weapon Of Choice", assuming that's tropeworthy
- We could split off the "Unhinged Knife User" aspect and maybe the "Fetishization" aspect into tropes of their own, or redefine this trope to mean one of those things
- This trope could be cut or disambiged
Edited by GastonRabbit on May 16th 2022 at 6:24:17 AM
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Yeah, a little over 2,000 wicks isn't that bad.
Maybe if I have more energy I'll see what I can do.
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Just stoic wisdom.
Bulletins for >10k wicks makes sense to me.
There was a concerted effort to dewick KN early on in its cleaning phase that resulted in ~3k wicks cleaned in only a couple days. Whoever worked on that seemed to have lost interest in powering through to the finish line, sadly.
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the Retromancer
I'd prefer Nice Hat to get all priority for now or we'll just end up making bulletins for all 50 threads.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Showtime!
That's fair
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
Got it down to below 2400.
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Knocking out all the small namespaces, down to below 2100
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
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Down below 2000
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
I cleaned up the remaining Main/ wicks. The one that's left is in the image caption for Troperiffic, and given the context, I'm not sure if we should remove it. Maybe we could dewick it and add in parentheses that the trope no longer exists.
(she/her)
That works.
Macron's notes
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Doing some dewicking... does anyone know what the hell this is and what to do with the wick in it?
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
(she/her)
It's a recap for On the Tropes but those recaps aren't formatted like normal ones are. I am not sure what to do with it.
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the Retromancer
On the Tropes needs to be cleared or maybe even recreated from scratch, but that's for Short-Term.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
That is a very strange page, but for now, I dewicked the Knife Nut link and added (deprecated trope) next to it.
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All cleanable namespaces but Characters/ done, 1468 wicks left
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
Showtime!
done up to the end of F in Characters/ under 1225 wicks left
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
Wicks are down to 850.
You didn't see anything.
<500
You didn't see anything.
Knife Nut has been disarmed and dewicked.
Except Characters.Sonichu which is locked.
You didn't see anything.
(she/her)
Nice! I'll get the Sonichu wick. Locking up.
Edited by MacronNotes on Oct 6th 2022 at 6:09:15 AM
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Crown Description:
Consensus was to redefine Knife Nut to refer to unhinged knife users and rename (name would be decided with another crowner), send other tropeworthy concepts to the Trope Idea Salvage Yard, and disambiguate the original name. What should the new name be?
Well, there's plenty of projects that have a lot of wicks that have stalled in TRS (some with more wicks than this trope).
Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 26th 2022 at 9:17:34 AM
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