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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#26: Oct 11th 2021 at 11:12:57 AM

I'd be cool with that.

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#28: Oct 11th 2021 at 12:42:06 PM

The Definite Article has linguistic / grammatical significance that a trope can be tied into
the placement of "the" in the title of a work or in the name of a group regardless of the wishes of the people or the person who made it.

There are times when a "the" would clash with another article, in which case it's generally accepted that you drop the one in the name; it's "a Strokes song", not "a The Strokes song".

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#29: Oct 11th 2021 at 1:31:17 PM

Mmm... I'm not backing down on the idea that "The" adds importance, but The "The" Title Confusion sure is something.

I guess that the object without the "The" is sufficiently impressive sounding that people feel compelled to add "The" before it...

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#30: Oct 11th 2021 at 2:10:54 PM

Regarding heroic redheads, Redheaded Hero actually used to be a trope before it was redirected to Red Is Heroic. (If that post was implicitly referring to Redheaded Hero, then never mind.)

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#32: Oct 13th 2021 at 5:30:04 PM

What happens if Cut and Definition-Only are tied at significant numbers?

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33: Oct 13th 2021 at 6:10:55 PM

Runoff?

What does "redefine" mean on the crowner?

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#34: Oct 13th 2021 at 6:13:07 PM

No clue. I downvoted it because it's meaningless and I don't want another thread to go up in flames because nobody knows what the crowner meant.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#36: Oct 13th 2021 at 6:39:02 PM

Huh. Did anybody actually discuss that? I need to read the other thread to see why it was changed in the first place, but if it wasn't tropeworthy then it isn't now.

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#37: Oct 14th 2021 at 1:13:49 AM

Yeah, this crowner needs to be redone. I've locked it; make a new one.

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#38: Oct 14th 2021 at 3:27:31 AM

[up]Redone how? Without the option for redefining?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#40: Oct 15th 2021 at 7:59:37 AM

I can't seem to vote?

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#41: Oct 15th 2021 at 8:17:05 AM

Yeah, there's only a question, no option to actually vote on.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#42: Oct 15th 2021 at 8:26:45 AM

Should still be a Page Action though right, since the option to make it an exampleless page was also floated.

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#43: Oct 15th 2021 at 11:56:36 AM

[up]Made a new crowner with the Definition-Only Page suggestion in addition to a cut option (and without any redefinition option).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 15th 2021 at 1:57:53 PM

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#45: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:41:55 AM

It's hooked.

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#46: Oct 19th 2021 at 3:48:04 AM

I posted a bulletin on ATT.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#47: Oct 20th 2021 at 4:35:33 PM

Is it too late to add another option to the crowner?

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#48: Oct 20th 2021 at 4:37:10 PM

At this point? Probably not a good idea. What's the idea? Because if it wasn't discussed beforehand I don't see much justification to add it this late.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#50: Oct 20th 2021 at 4:43:44 PM

Er, yeahhhhhh, I'm not seeing much of a point to that. Adding the word "The" isn't even idiosyncratic. It just seems like a confusing match.

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15th Oct '21 11:55:27 AM

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