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WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Aug 14th 2021 at 10:26:01 AM

I'm not fully convinced on either but they might be worth trying.

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mightymewtron "We're gonna test the lesbian waters!" from New New York Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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Aug 14th 2021 at 10:34:07 AM

Heroic, no (I can't think of a particular trend with heroic monkeys above any other examples — even the humanesque aspect is more incidental to many of these works), but Gratuitous, maybe.

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Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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Aug 14th 2021 at 11:01:13 AM

Gratuitous seems chairs-y to me, unless they're in a place where one would not usually find a monkey.

Edited by Berrenta on Aug 14th 2021 at 1:02:05 PM

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Aug 14th 2021 at 11:09:52 AM

I don't really think "gratuitous" works for things like this, because "gratuitous" is generally used to mean "uncalled for" or "excessive without ample justification," , like "gratuitous violence".

"Gratuitous Animal" doesn't work so well, partly because it's potentially chairs and a ZCE magnet. Especially if we're going to start doing "Gratuitous X" for every animal that exists.

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Aug 14th 2021 at 11:52:47 AM

No, Gratuitous Monkey is not a tropable concept. We already have Garnishing the Story for it and that plus subtropes already draw misuse. Object-specific subtropes are not really tropes and would encourage folks to list all instances of monkeys.

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Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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Aug 14th 2021 at 4:57:47 PM

Been trying to remove some more misuse in the sandbox (courtesy link). In the meantime, should we temporarily make Silly Simian a redirect so we can handle wicks as well?

If so, we got 2050 wicks, including 109 from a redirect.

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Aug 15th 2021 at 2:34:29 PM

That will be a lot of work to clean up.

Aug 30th 2021 at 6:35:25 AM

Silly Simian has an overwhelming number of votes. I think it's time to create Silly Simian and move the valid examples there. Should it be created in TRS?

mightymewtron "We're gonna test the lesbian waters!" from New New York Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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Aug 30th 2021 at 8:10:53 AM

You mean TLP? Maybe. I think we're working on a sandbox for the old trope and that'll be what we move to the new name.

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Aug 30th 2021 at 8:57:08 AM

[up]Regarding moving it to the new name, does that mean the mods will transplant Sandbox.Silly Simian directly to Main.Silly Simian, or does it mean it'll have to go through TLP after Everything's Better with Monkeys is dewicked?

(I haven't followed this thread in a while, so I don't recall if this was already discussed.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 30th 2021 at 10:57:59 AM

Thud!!
Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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Sep 2nd 2021 at 8:09:42 PM

Mods can move it directly when it's time.

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Sep 17th 2021 at 6:25:33 AM

I removed a few unnecessary paragraphs from the description in the sandbox. Will look through the examples now.

WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Sep 27th 2021 at 4:04:35 PM

Should we make the swap, or are there still issues?

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MylesHenryVigilSr Pringles Enthusiast from New Mexico Relationship Status: Seeking boyfriend-free girl
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Oct 10th 2021 at 10:06:14 PM

Dewicked 115 wicks so far. Still feels like nothing compared to the 1930 wicks we still have left to go.

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mightymewtron "We're gonna test the lesbian waters!" from New New York Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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Oct 10th 2021 at 11:27:00 PM

It'll be easier to dewick when we go forth with the description swap so we can move examples to Silly Simian.

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MylesHenryVigilSr Pringles Enthusiast from New Mexico Relationship Status: Seeking boyfriend-free girl
Pringles Enthusiast
Oct 12th 2021 at 7:08:48 PM

So don’t bother dewicking if the page that mentions the trope does NOT imply “monkeys exist”?

Edited by MylesHenryVigilSr on Oct 12th 2021 at 8:08:54 AM

No matter how pissy of a day you may or may not be having, METAL always makes it better…
mightymewtron "We're gonna test the lesbian waters!" from New New York Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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Oct 12th 2021 at 7:18:31 PM

What I mean is there are examples I don't want to delete until I can move them, because they actually do work for the original meaning of the trope. For example, I was going to move the example on Rhythm Heaven because the monkeys are partly used for comedic effect in that game, but Silly Simian isn't a page yet so I couldn't proceed, and deleting it now and re-adding it later would be unnecessary extra effort.

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WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Oct 12th 2021 at 7:20:12 PM

Well, I don't see any reason not to make the swap.

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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
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Oct 13th 2021 at 9:21:50 AM

There is a definitely a tendency for artists to add a new world monkey hanging off branches in the background by its prehensile tail, however out of place (the epitome for me would be in one of Usborne's Puzzle Adventure books, The Vanishing Village, which is clearly set somewhere in England). But I don't see how that would be tropable.

Berrenta MOD Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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Oct 19th 2021 at 6:51:22 AM

Okay, move has been done. Now we can properly move wicks.

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Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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Oct 23rd 2021 at 6:20:50 AM

107 to go (for the redirect)!

Update: Did some more redirect wicks. We're now at 1897 overall, 88 from the redirect.

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 23rd 2021 at 11:34:25 AM

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Dec 2nd 2021 at 9:30:05 PM

Bumping for wick help.

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