Ban-Evader Reversion Thread
Please read the outline below before proceeding any further.Important Note: This thread is devoted to reverting the edits of Tropers who have repeatedly chosen to evade their bans and suspensions, since serial ban-evasion is an act which is by its very nature a display of untrustworthiness, the fact that some ban-evaders outright engage in vandalism or add false information notwithstanding.
Depending on how much of the pages can be salvaged, they will either be noted in the B.E.R.T. Watch-List, locked if necessary, or cut if unsalvageable.
Any Frequently Vandalized Pages will also be monitored for suspicious activity.
If you notice a page is primarily edited by a certain ban-evader and/or their socks, please bring your findings to this thread so that cleanup can commence.
Potentially valid examples added by ban evaders should be transferred to Ban-Evader Example Rewrites so they can be salvaged. Make sure to mention transferring examples to the sandbox in your edit reason so others who may be willing to rewrite are aware.
Handling General Ban-Evader Edits:
To paraphrase what is stated here and here:- Bad faith is not necessarily assumed with the contributions of first-time ban-evaders, and their contributions can simply be rephrased assuming they're accurate.
- Any serial (more than once) ban-evader cannot be taken at their word, so their contributions are subject to harsher scrutiny. Any verifiable examples can be reworded (especially if there are grammatical or formatting issues), but unverifiable, false, or otherwise prohibited edits are removed.
- Ban-evaders who deliberately contribute inaccurate or false information are able to have their contributions deleted with little hesitation.
- Rewording or reverting can be as simple as expanding on a ban-evader's existing edits, especially if it means adding sufficient context or trimming word cruft.
The subsequent portions of this section outline further how to handle different kinds of edits and contributions.
The following types of edits can be left alone to preserve wiki quality:
- Grammatical corrections.
- Spelling corrections.
- Formatting updates and corrections.note
- Crosswicked examples from other tropers.
- Indexing (if accurate).note
- Accurately written potholes.note
- Links to the correct Work/Recap/Instalment/Franchise page, including red-linked works.note
- Archive edits. (See here.)
- Launched Tropes.note
The following edits might need to be reworded in order to stay on the wiki, and depending on the examples, may need to be re-evaluated/verified in this thread or in the proper cleanup threads.
- Zero-Context Example expansion.
- Otherwise correctly formatted and valid edits.
The following edits should remain hidden until they can be verified, and deleted if proven inaccurate:
The following items must be sent to the cut-list/otherwise removed on principle (and if applicable, re-created by a trustworthy editor from scratch using a Sandbox):
- Pages created by ban-evaders using their socks.note
- Videos uploaded by ban evaders using their socks.note
- Please refrain from "popcorn posting". This means refraining making comments such as "man, they don't know when to quit", or otherwise unproductive posts.
- Please maintain an atmosphere of civility.
- Please do not withhold information about potential sock-puppetry or other ban-evasion related misconduct, as withholding such information makes one an accessory to ban-evasion.
- When reverting edits, please make notes in the sandboxes, and transfer any potentially valid edits to the appropriate sandbox.
- When reverting ban-evader edits, please use an appropriate (and civil) edit reason.
- Should you suspect a ban-evader has shown up in this thread, please do not make open accusations, trash-talk them, or engage in other uncivil behaviour. Quietly holler the post and wait for mod input; if necessary (especially if suspicious edits or issues unrelated to the forum are involved), make a query at "Ask The Tropers".
- Please respect the thread consensus once it has been established. If an item is resolved, it is usually resolved for a reason.
- If you have any suggestions for new policies, or wish to contest an old one, do it in the General Policy Discussion, not here.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 13th 2024 at 10:23:58 AM
Ohhhhh, my bad.... I thought this was about the ones caught ban-evading. Apologies.
Trans rights are human rights!darcy73423 was found to be another sayaka sock. Their edit history shows that they have made many extensive edits to a number of trope and YMMV pages.
I can't revert the edits right now since I'm tired and I'm on mobile, so if anyone can help revert the edits I would gladly appreciate it.
Edited by YuriHaru567 on Jun 20th 2022 at 12:15:09 PM
Trans rights are human rights!Per this thread minijenn is a sockpuppet of minijen. Please revert as needed.
So I decided to try and revert the edits Minijenn had made as per my prior post. However, a majority of the entries on this page for her fanfic were made by her. Do we delete the examples there and move them to the sandbox? My concern is that doing so would gut the page until the rewrites are complete.
That would be the way to go. And in my opinion I wouldn't worry about it gutting the page since like, she broke the rules putting those there when literally just could have appealed her suspension the first go round.
Anyways, Starlightmayhem is a confirmed sock for starlightmayhemfangirl. I've handled all her edits except for the ones on YMMV.Starlight Mayhem and VideoGame.Starlight Mayhem, which need to be mod reverted because they just did so much it'd be tedious to go through manually.
Jawbreakers on sale for 99ยขReverted both pages
Macron's notesThanks!
Jawbreakers on sale for 99ยขThemaskedstarlight was just outed as another sock of starlightmayhemfangirl/StarlightMayhem/rubyfangirl.
I'm on mobile and one of the mods has reverted some of their edits, so revert as needed.
Edited by YuriHaru567 on Jul 17th 2022 at 10:56:15 AM
Trans rights are human rights!All of their edits besides Pantheon.Students have been reverted, the Laconic page they created is on the cutlist, and I've informed the Pantheon thread about the vandalism.
The gaps between the creations of their previous socks were a few months. This one was barely even a day. I'm a bit concerned.
Jawbreakers on sale for 99ยขAnd she isn't even stockpiling socks either; they're clearly sequential to me. She'll probably be back again in a few days, given this rate.
Edited by Albert3105 on Jul 17th 2022 at 9:42:26 AM
I bet it'll take little time for someone to figure out her newest account is a sockpuppet tbh.
Please remember to make notes in the sandboxes, people.
Feels good, don't it?Again the issue is IP addresses. With the tools we have it's hard to make matches when people use mobile or highly dynamic residential IPs. We prohibit most mobile IPs in the US, but elsewhere a mobile device is the primary connection for a lot of people.
When looking at accounts, it is usually better to err towards false negatives than false positives, but we have to strike a balance. Maybe I should keep a note on my desktop of all of these persistent ban evaders and their username/IP patterns.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'm unsure if there's any sorting method to it so I just stuck this at the bottom of the BERT Watch-List:
- ENA and subpages, Starlight Mayhem and subpages, multiple Playing With pages: Edited periodically by a ban evader with at least four handles. The evader in question makes dozens of edits in succession, most of which are nonsensical or remove context from examples. All of their handles so far have had some relation to Starlight Mayhem.
Slight rewrite:
- ENA and subpages, Starlight Mayhem and subpages, multiple Playing With pages: Edited periodically by a ban evader with at least four handles. The evader in question makes dozens of edits in succession, most of which are nonsensical or remove context from examples. All of their handles as of July 17th, 2022 have had some relation to Starlight Mayhem.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Jul 17th 2022 at 11:10:53 AM
Feels good, don't it?Let's just change it to "Their handles tend to have some relation to Starlight Mayhem and avoid having to constantly update the date.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.All edits have (as far as I know) since been undone, but noting here that this ATT query confirmed Cildovu is a sock of Ryah.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallThis post confirms that Tell Me Nothin is a sock of Messy 432.
AFAIK, only their most recent edits have been reverted, so revert as needed.
Edited by YuriHaru567 on Jul 27th 2022 at 5:16:42 AM
Trans rights are human rights!Actually, Messy was the sock. That account came first but to my knowledge wasn't banned, they just swapped to TellMeNothin, got banned there, and switched back.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessAhh, nvm. Thanks for clarifying.
Trans rights are human rights!LovelySounds is a previously undetected Utter Koala sock. Needs wiki cleanup.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I saw on Edit Banned that you bounced Tony The Terrific Tiger as a sock of an unspecified banned user. Would it be possible to know who that was so we can look for patterns?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessIt's a long-time ban evader. The original account was AutisticKid2003.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Actually, Panda attempted to ban evade by making a new account and was caught. They aren't a known ban evader.
Macron's notes