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crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Nov 15th 2020 at 12:11:00 PM

This is one of those old pages created before the creation of namespaces. It is essentially a project page that focuses on getting articles out of the "stub" category (along with a few other areas of improvement). This is not a trope, it belongs in Administrivia (note the index), as well as Works Needing Tropes, Pages Needing Wicks, Pages Needing Example Sorting, and Wiki Magic.

Except for "Magic", these are all pages that list work/trope articles that need improvement. Sometimes the improvements are cosmetic, sometimes they are quality concerns that affect if we keep the article at all. An associated problem is that many tropers include the wick in the description as a request for additional editors, with over 2000 wicks around the site, only 20 are in Main or Administrivia.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Berrenta NYEH from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
NYEH
Nov 16th 2020 at 5:33:47 AM

The moderation team has decided to allow this thread, so opened for discussion.

I second moving to Administrivia.

TRS needs your help!
ccorb from A very hot place Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nov 16th 2020 at 5:41:36 AM

Thirding moving to Administrivia.

Rock'n'roll never dies!
FernandoLemon Fan of Night in the Woods and Hamilton from Argentina
Fan of Night in the Woods and Hamilton
Nov 16th 2020 at 6:01:06 AM

Yes, move to Administrivia.

Is there anything else that we should do with it?

At the end of everything, hold onto anything.
GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
DBZfan102 Disciple of Woolsey from Sobral, CE, Brazil Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Disciple of Woolsey
Nov 16th 2020 at 9:53:13 AM

Move.

"I think if you're capable of entertaining people, then you are doing a good thing. - Stan Lee
jandn2014 Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot from somewhere in Connecticut Relationship Status: Hiding
Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot
wingedcatgirl card game kity from The Murder-Free Hotel
Nov 16th 2020 at 10:41:32 AM

++ on moving to Administrivia.

Sylvi& | it/she/they | plural trans catgirl | Trouble Cube
WarJay77 Time to go batty! from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
themayorofsimpleton On hiatus from My house
On hiatus
Nov 16th 2020 at 5:36:16 PM

Move

The Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining sandbox, for reference for all who need it
Karxrida Spooky Time from The Extra Deck Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Spooky Time
Nov 16th 2020 at 9:57:29 PM

Move.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Nov 20th 2020 at 4:24:37 PM

Unanimous, has been here most of the week, hollering for mod conclusion.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Nov 21st 2020 at 1:00:08 AM

Make it so!

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Nov 21st 2020 at 5:32:02 AM

Moved to Administrivia.Needs Wiki Magic Love. I updated the indexing for the Dutch Administrivia page, but I'll need to post a locked page request for the English one.

Any questions?
Berrenta NYEH from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Berrenta NYEH from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
NYEH
Nov 22nd 2020 at 12:43:21 PM

Main/ has been handled, along with a few one-offs. Some cases had to be completely reworded to remove NWML.

How are we going to do the wick on DarthWiki.Crappy Trope Definitions?

TRS needs your help!
ccorb from A very hot place Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
wingedcatgirl card game kity from The Murder-Free Hotel
Nov 22nd 2020 at 1:27:52 PM

Yeah, that can just be moved to the administrivia folder as-is.

Sylvi& | it/she/they | plural trans catgirl | Trouble Cube
GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Nov 22nd 2020 at 2:25:32 PM

[up]There is no Administrivia folder. Those are currently in a folder called Other, but on the discussion page I've suggested splitting Just For Fun, Useful Notes, and Administrivia into their own folders while reserving Other for things that still don't fit anywhere else.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 22nd 2020 at 4:26:13 AM

Any questions?
GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Nov 26th 2020 at 5:56:18 PM

Sorry for the double post, but I ended up going several days without mentioning that I previously added the page to the Wick Namespace Migration page in hopes of speeding up the process.

Any questions?
HeavyMetalHermitCrab The Crustacean of Desolation from The Wretched Sea
The Crustacean of Desolation
Nov 28th 2020 at 12:24:25 AM

So are we supposed to move the work-page wicks, or just remove them? I was under the impression that it was the latter...

crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Nov 28th 2020 at 12:29:54 AM

I'm just removing, adding them to the appropriate NWML index if needed, and checking the page to update the templating (like the hardline at the end of the article).

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Berrenta NYEH from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
NYEH
Nov 28th 2020 at 8:44:35 AM

[up] A lot of the NWML wicks I encountered do not indicate why, so I simply removed them. Indexing them accordingly is viable.

TRS needs your help!
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Nov 28th 2020 at 9:42:13 AM

I'm pretty sure the "why" is just a request for more editors, but it (1) looks bad since the wiki's target audience is not editors and (2) doesn't actually increase the number of editors/content for a given page. It's been a good tool for finding stub pages (about 25% of the time? maybe 10%? Still higher than picking an index and clicking through) that need adding to one of the project's indexes.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
GastonRabbit His own thang from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Nov 28th 2020 at 12:41:29 PM

Should the Wick Namespace Migration entry have a note saying to remove wicks on work pages?

Any questions?

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