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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#1: Nov 15th 2020 at 12:11:00 PM

This is one of those old pages created before the creation of namespaces. It is essentially a project page that focuses on getting articles out of the "stub" category (along with a few other areas of improvement). This is not a trope, it belongs in Administrivia (note the index), as well as Works Needing Tropes, Pages Needing Wicks, Pages Needing Example Sorting, and Wiki Magic.

Except for "Magic", these are all pages that list work/trope articles that need improvement. Sometimes the improvements are cosmetic, sometimes they are quality concerns that affect if we keep the article at all. An associated problem is that many tropers include the wick in the description as a request for additional editors, with over 2000 wicks around the site, only 20 are in Main or Administrivia.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#2: Nov 16th 2020 at 5:33:47 AM

The moderation team has decided to allow this thread, so opened for discussion.

I second moving to Administrivia.

she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
ccorb from A very hot place Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#4: Nov 16th 2020 at 6:01:06 AM

Yes, move to Administrivia.

Is there anything else that we should do with it?

I'd like to apologize for all this.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#5: Nov 16th 2020 at 6:58:09 AM

Move to Administrivia.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
DBZfan102 Disciple of Woolsey from Sobral, CE, Brazil Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Disciple of Woolsey
#6: Nov 16th 2020 at 9:53:13 AM

Move.

"I think if you're capable of entertaining people, then you are doing a good thing. - Stan Lee
jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#7: Nov 16th 2020 at 10:35:13 AM

Move it to Administrivia.

back lol
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#8: Nov 16th 2020 at 10:41:32 AM

++ on moving to Administrivia.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#11: Nov 16th 2020 at 9:57:29 PM

Move.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#12: Nov 20th 2020 at 4:24:37 PM

Unanimous, has been here most of the week, hollering for mod conclusion.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:00:08 AM

Make it so!

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#14: Nov 21st 2020 at 5:32:02 AM

Moved to Administrivia.Needs Wiki Magic Love. I updated the indexing for the Dutch Administrivia page, but I'll need to post a locked page request for the English one.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#15: Nov 21st 2020 at 6:33:05 AM

Okay, time to take down some wicks. 2034 wicks to deal with.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#16: Nov 22nd 2020 at 12:43:21 PM

Main/ has been handled, along with a few one-offs. Some cases had to be completely reworded to remove NWML.

How are we going to do the wick on DarthWiki.Crappy Trope Definitions?

she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
ccorb from A very hot place Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#18: Nov 22nd 2020 at 1:27:52 PM

Yeah, that can just be moved to the administrivia folder as-is.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#19: Nov 22nd 2020 at 2:25:32 PM

[up]There is no Administrivia folder. Those are currently in a folder called Other, but on the discussion page I've suggested splitting Just for Fun, Useful Notes, and Administrivia into their own folders while reserving Other for things that still don't fit anywhere else.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 22nd 2020 at 4:26:13 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#20: Nov 26th 2020 at 5:56:18 PM

Sorry for the double post, but I ended up going several days without mentioning that I previously added the page to the Wick Namespace Migration page in hopes of speeding up the process.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#21: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:24:25 AM

So are we supposed to move the work-page wicks, or just remove them? I was under the impression that it was the latter...

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#22: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:29:54 AM

I'm just removing, adding them to the appropriate NWML index if needed, and checking the page to update the templating (like the hardline at the end of the article).

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#23: Nov 28th 2020 at 8:44:35 AM

[up] A lot of the NWML wicks I encountered do not indicate why, so I simply removed them. Indexing them accordingly is viable.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#24: Nov 28th 2020 at 9:42:13 AM

I'm pretty sure the "why" is just a request for more editors, but it (1) looks bad since the wiki's target audience is not editors and (2) doesn't actually increase the number of editors/content for a given page. It's been a good tool for finding stub pages (about 25% of the time? maybe 10%? Still higher than picking an index and clicking through) that need adding to one of the project's indexes.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#25: Nov 28th 2020 at 12:41:29 PM

Should the Wick Namespace Migration entry have a note saying to remove wicks on work pages?

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

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