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mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Lots of coffee
#2576: Oct 10th 2021 at 6:28:49 AM

Thanks Fighteer, I assumed the previous threads were locked but still figured one would specify that when closing a duplicate, especially when the other threads were closed for something this thread did not allow. I get why a positivity-only thread has its own issues though.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Kevjro7 Susjection! Since: Jan, 2020
Susjection!
#2578: Oct 10th 2021 at 9:37:25 AM

These TLP drafts need to be discarded early.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#2580: Oct 13th 2021 at 4:41:59 PM

Can one of the mods unhook the crowner on the image suggestions thread? It's a month old and all the =/> 2:1 suggestions have been added.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#2581: Oct 13th 2021 at 5:21:36 PM

[up] That would've been nice to know when it happened. :-/ It's been closed and unhooked.

GoldenCityBird from the UK Since: Oct, 2018
#2582: Oct 16th 2021 at 10:10:20 AM

This TLP is one for an already-existing trope, and is entirely blank otherwise. It was likely created by an inexperienced troper hoping to promote their online animation. It needs an early discard, and probably a check on the people who hatted it.

Edited by GoldenCityBird on Oct 16th 2021 at 6:10:34 PM

TRS Wick Cleaning
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#2583: Oct 16th 2021 at 1:23:42 PM

Another random question - does the typical text format work in Hollers? For example, if I'm hollering one post but I link to another in the holler text like so, does it show up like that on the other side?

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Oct 16th 2021 at 4:37:29 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2584: Oct 16th 2021 at 1:37:42 PM

Yes, Hollers accept standard markup.

Edited by Fighteer on Oct 16th 2021 at 4:42:34 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2585: Oct 16th 2021 at 1:43:34 PM

I've discarded and locked that junk TLP. The two tropers who hatted it were its sponsor (SuperLH) and sebastian36, who doesn't seem to have any relationship.

~sebastian36: Is there any particular reason you added a hat to that thing?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#2586: Oct 17th 2021 at 11:03:57 AM

So mods can tell who hats something on tlp.

Always thought it wasn't possible .

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#2587: Oct 17th 2021 at 11:05:41 AM

It's a recent change.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#2588: Oct 17th 2021 at 1:03:21 PM

Hey I know it's Sunday, but could y'all please deal with Autistic Kid 2003? As stated in this ATT, they're editing up a storm and making a mess of the wiki, changing images all over the place, serial tweaking like crazy, and gushing on main pages, among other things.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2589: Oct 17th 2021 at 1:13:30 PM

So what do people think of flat-out blocking any account that declares a mental disability in their username? Anyway, got that one.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Professor Gigachad
#2590: Oct 17th 2021 at 1:14:59 PM

That seems like a bit much I don't understand why people would put that in their username though.

CM Sandboxes, MB Sandboxes
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#2591: Oct 17th 2021 at 1:20:44 PM

While a strait up block probably isn’t needed I do wonder if the “What to do if you’re suspended” page should include a note that autism and similar conditions don’t make people exempt from the rules.

I don’t expect anyone to actually read such a note, but it might help by enabling the mods to go “As the What To Do If You’re Suspended Page Says, while we’re welcoming to everyone here you don’t get to break the rules or ask for extra chances just because you have a Neurodiverse condition”.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Lots of coffee
#2592: Oct 17th 2021 at 1:23:00 PM

[up][up][up] I know it's probably a joke,, but as somebody who used "autistic" in her username on other sites because I am autistic and it heavily contextualizes me interests... let's not ban people calling themselves autistic in their username, please.

[up] Honestly that should just go without saying.

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 17th 2021 at 4:23:30 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#2593: Oct 17th 2021 at 1:24:02 PM

Agreed with mightymewtron. Not every person that does this will be acting in bad faith—that’s correlation, not causation.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2594: Oct 17th 2021 at 1:26:16 PM

I find that there is a definite correlation between misbehavior and usernames that include the words "fan", "trope", etc., plus declarations of neurodivergence. Anyway, I was mostly joking.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
GnomeTitan Oversized Garden Ornament Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Oversized Garden Ornament
#2595: Oct 18th 2021 at 1:15:18 AM

(Nevermind)

Edited by GnomeTitan on Oct 18th 2021 at 10:47:11 AM

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#2596: Oct 18th 2021 at 10:41:11 AM

Can a mod take a look at this ATT query regarding an edit war on Metroid - Samus Aran? The troper in question is displaying some concerning behavior, culminating in creating a new account for the following stated reason:

Hello it's me Mew, see after realizing that something was seriously wrong with my account (and hitting a Rage Breaking Point) I decided to make a drastic decision, destroy it myself the reasons are the following: First of all, a Rage Quit, I was not going to stand there while someone did this. Second, by erasing my own account, I burn the tainted bridges before a mod got time to get angry and ban me, and finally I could get a new password. But let's stop talking about that and get back to the tropes I was adding because theylook forgotten

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#2597: Oct 18th 2021 at 11:19:57 AM

Speaking of ATT, there's a lot of queries over there that need a mod's involvement to get them resolved. Many of them have been up for at least 3 days at this point, and they're getting pretty big.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
SilverCrown (Private) Relationship Status: Singularity
#2598: Oct 18th 2021 at 11:36:16 AM

[up] I remember asking for a holler button in ATT but one of the mods vetoed it.

That's a shame, since it's situations like this where they would have come in handy.

mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Lots of coffee
#2599: Oct 18th 2021 at 11:37:21 AM

Well, mod inactivity would affect the ability to check Hollers and ATT anyway.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#2600: Oct 18th 2021 at 11:40:46 AM

The holler system is pretty ass anyway, so I don't want to add to the clutter by also having everyone holler about every single ATT report.

There's like 2 crowners over at TRS I've been trying to get hooked and neither crowner I've sent has been seen, so, yeah... I'm not blaming the mods here (like I said, the holler system kinda sucks and they're bombarded with hollers constantly so it's an issue), but I am saying that my faith in the holler system isn't the best and I'm not sure if it'd help anything for ATT.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness

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