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LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas Since: Aug, 2020
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#1: Sep 27th 2020 at 12:19:25 AM

I found this while looking for poorly named subtropes of The Con. Not only does the title fail to relate to the trope, but the description also doesn't help me understand what the trope is about. No wonder it has only 19 wicks. It has 53 on-page examples, but many of them are Zero-Context Examples.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Nov 2nd 2020 at 3:09:30 AM

Opening.

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AlexThePrettyGood Could be worse from Feeding the cat Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#3: Nov 2nd 2020 at 3:43:45 AM

From the description and some of the samples I get the idea that the name comes from a specific scam where the scammer contacts the bereaved to tell them the deceased person had made a non-refundable down-payment on a personalised bible for their loved one (I.e. the bereaved.)

The bible is now ready. So sorry for your loss but do you want to continue the sale? We can cancel the sale without further cost for you though.

The bereaved is then expected to accept the sale, pay "the remainder" and get one last personal attention from their loved ones.

The scammer then sends them a (probably cheaply made) bible with a "To my darling Alice" written on the inside cover after they have pocketed 100$.

Apparently, this is the main MO in Paper Moon and that's where the name comes from; but I haven't seen the series so I can't comment on that.

Not sure whether this scam still exists these day. I hadn't heard about it before reading the trope page at least.

Agreed that this will need a clearer title (and serious re-write) if there are indeed enough samples to be found.

Edited by AlexThePrettyGood on Nov 2nd 2020 at 12:45:19 PM

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4: Nov 2nd 2020 at 4:15:21 AM

The page looks like it has sufficient examples, but this title should really be changed.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#5: Nov 2nd 2020 at 5:45:56 AM

Added banner to the page. The name Scamming the Bereaved jumps out at me.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#6: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:38:32 AM

It's certainly a trope worth keeping, although it should probably get a rename that doesn't include the word "bible" since that's just one way to play the trope.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#8: Nov 15th 2020 at 10:40:09 AM

Yeah, that's a good name. [tup]

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#12: Nov 17th 2020 at 8:10:22 PM

Crowner direct to the suggestion or normal two-step process?

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raspberryred99 pobody's nerfect Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#14: Dec 10th 2020 at 4:21:56 PM

I made a single prop for the rename. It's been five weeks, figured if anyone else had an alternate name it would've come up by now.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#15: Dec 11th 2020 at 3:32:32 AM

Somewhat unusual approach to crownering, but done.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#16: Dec 14th 2020 at 5:20:52 PM

Proposal hooked on the 11th, has 14 votes and they're unanimous.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#17: Dec 15th 2020 at 12:44:11 AM

Called crowner in favour of the rename and did some of the moderator-only steps myself. Now what is needed is:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ccorb from A very hot place Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
#18: Dec 15th 2020 at 6:25:26 AM

Done, done, and done. You can morgue this thread now.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#19: Dec 15th 2020 at 6:58:08 AM

The subpage is awaiting to be cut; other than that, it's done.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Dec 15th 2020 at 11:58:57 AM

I'd like to apologize for all this.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#20: Dec 15th 2020 at 8:08:39 AM

Ok, closing this then.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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10th Dec '20 4:21:18 PM

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