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This is a thread for checking up on pages for works that have not been released yet, to make sure that they are not straying into rampant speculation or posting crazy behind the scenes spoilers. You can bring both individual examples or entire pages to attention here.

In extreme cases, any page can be locked, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

(As these pages often are hit with zero-context examples and shoehorning as well, all four - speculation, spoilers, ZCEs, and shoehorning may get addressed simultaneously.)

The policy governing this effort is Creating A Work Page For An Unreleased Work. Cleanup is being tracked using the Unreleased Works sandbox.

All pages for unreleased works should include a %% comment at the top of the page, confirming the policy and linking to this thread and the Administrivia page. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as the example provided here, but this provides a template to work with.

     Template for the unreleased work comment 
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%% Speculative troping is not allowed on TV Tropes.
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%% We trope what DOES happen in works, not what MIGHT happen or is LIKELY to happen.
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%% For unreleased works where all we have to go on is advertising and other supplemental materials, we have some detailed guidelines, which can be found at Administrivia/CreatingAWorkPageForAnUnreleasedWork.
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%% NOTE - these rules also mean that unreleased works should only have one page image, and that image should NOT be changed again until the work is released.
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%% If you have questions, please consult the Unreleased Work Speculation Cleanup thread at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15514631230A64268600
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%% Thank you.
%%

Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 10th 2024 at 8:16:52 PM

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#2051: May 17th 2020 at 12:08:41 PM

[up] Cut both of 'em.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#2052: May 17th 2020 at 1:04:44 PM

Memetic Mutation could take a trip to the NREP thread.

ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#2053: May 17th 2020 at 7:28:09 PM

I think Memetic Mutation should have a 1-week waiting period. That's usually enough time to determine if something became a meme or not.

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#2054: May 17th 2020 at 9:02:45 PM

[up] 1 week from what, though? That's the hard part.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
#2055: May 23rd 2020 at 10:28:34 AM

Kamp Koral has only two uncited tropes and I can't find a trailer.

ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#2056: May 23rd 2020 at 12:15:14 PM

[up] Only a teaser image has been released and no trailer, so there isn't a lot to trope. And the YMMV page consists entirely of complaining.

Edited by ADrago on May 23rd 2020 at 3:17:45 PM

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
#2057: May 27th 2020 at 12:40:17 PM

Is Zack Snyder's Justice League legit? So far there're just a poster a few stills.

Edited by Silverblade2 on May 27th 2020 at 9:44:17 PM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#2058: May 27th 2020 at 12:42:57 PM

Do we even need a separate page for that. Couldn't it be troped on the main justice league page ?

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Serac she/her Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#2059: May 27th 2020 at 12:50:39 PM

It's probably worth its own page, given that one of the links on the page says that the two will share ~10% of their footage. But yeah, it probably doesn't need a page until there's a trailer for it.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#2060: May 28th 2020 at 1:16:16 AM

I'd lean more towards sharing a page since it's just a different cut, but if they manage to notably change the plot then I guess a new page could work.

Either way though, we need some more tropeable material, not just stills.

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#2061: May 28th 2020 at 4:14:28 AM

If treated as a wholly separate work, is it eligible for a page?

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#2062: May 28th 2020 at 4:31:35 PM

No. Films require both pre-release material and an officially announced release date/period.

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#2063: May 28th 2020 at 7:05:12 PM

[up] Just to be sure, does that also apply to all TV series in general?

Edited by gjjones on May 28th 2020 at 10:05:40 AM

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
#2064: May 30th 2020 at 3:17:53 AM

My Little Pony: Pony Life has been created and all the entries are speculative and ZCE.

  • Animesque: Definitely looks that way, when compared to FIM.
  • Denser and Wackier: Seems to be going for a more wackier tone than FIM, with details like Fluttershy having noodle arms in the teaser.
  • Slice of Life: Accordingly will be, moreso than Friendship Is Magic was past its first few seasons.
  • Spin-Off: Of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, announced a month after it ended. This show uses the same characters and world with a few twists.
  • Two Shorts: The format of the show.

They are tropable stop motion shorts but no trailers for the show itself.

AM_NK Since: Sep, 2009
#2065: May 30th 2020 at 11:50:10 AM

Leaving Serious Sam 4 here for reviewing. I'm not sure if I nailed everything as intended.

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2067: Jun 11th 2020 at 9:31:12 PM

Does it...just have an announcement tagline?

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#2068: Jun 12th 2020 at 12:25:43 AM

I checked, and there's also some casting announcements, but that's still way off an actual trailer.

wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#2069: Jun 13th 2020 at 7:54:29 PM

Evil Genius 2 just got created, and the description looks so much like an advertisement that on top of the obvious wrong tone I'm also concerned it might literally just be copied and pasted from an advertisement.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#2071: Jun 13th 2020 at 8:16:50 PM

So that definitely needs to get replaced with something that's not just copied from elsewhere.

... Describing works has never really been a skill I have, much less unreleased works, so I have no idea what to replace it with. Would just deleting the copied part be a worse problem than leaving it?

Also might as well ping ~Lord Araghast, who did the pasting.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2072: Jun 13th 2020 at 8:21:59 PM

Something else to note is that the edit reason with the page creation includes "As of the PC Gaming Show, it seems that this game is very likely to be released this year", which isn't phrased definitively.

As a reminder, the criteria for video games is "have pre-release material and release scheduling or gameplay footage."

wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#2073: Jun 13th 2020 at 8:24:11 PM

A gameplay footage trailer was released... I want to say earlier today? Time is fake to my ADHD brain, but I know it was pretty recent.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2074: Jun 13th 2020 at 8:24:39 PM

Ah, okay then. Then it's just a matter of fixing the description and improving the examples.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#2075: Jun 15th 2020 at 8:51:26 AM

I was directed here from an ATT query I made, so correct me if this is the wrong place to post this.

I found an entry of He Panned It, Now He Sucks! regarding a critic admitting they're not looking forward to Zack Snyder's Justice League. Obviously, the film hasn't come out yet. So, is okay to list examples about people panning films that haven't come out yet? Or is it too premature to list such an example? Should a work actually be released to the public before we list examples?


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