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Deadlock Clock: Oct 22nd 2019 at 11:59:00 PM
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#1: Jan 29th 2019 at 6:54:33 PM

Adam and Eve Plot for some reason is specific to post-apocalyptic settings. Then there's the actual Adam and Eve example there (from the Bible) even though it ironically doesn't fit.

I'd love to change the description to make it broader, but I guess I have to go here and talk first.

What do you guys think?

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#2: Feb 1st 2019 at 9:39:47 AM

I think it can be expanded into two tropes:

  • A&E plot: Any circumstances where two (and only two) characters attempt to breed a race based on their genetics.
  • Colony plot: (might be super trope to A&E) Any number of characters trying to build a new society without access to additional colonists.
(Edited)

Edited by crazysamaritan on Feb 1st 2019 at 2:46:39 PM

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#3: Feb 1st 2019 at 11:21:31 AM

I actually think the current trope is tropeworthy enough on it's own. I think the trouble might be the name and not the trope itself.

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 1st 2019 at 2:22:10 PM

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#4: Feb 1st 2019 at 11:30:08 AM

I don't think the name is a problem since the Book of Genesis has some degree of Pop-Cultural Osmosis.

I feel like the description needs to be ironed out. It's rambly.

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#5: Feb 1st 2019 at 11:35:54 AM

Yeah, but the very fact that the Trope Namer is included when the example doesn't fit the plot tells me that the title misleads people into thinking it's any time when one man and one woman have to populate everything.

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#6: Feb 19th 2019 at 4:12:17 AM

The original Adam and Eve plot also falls under Creation Myth, and surely there are more examples of those to be found in other religions.

I agree that the current trope namer is not an actual example of the description. I think the best thing would be to make this trope a super trope, and make the postapocalyptic version into a subtrope.

Edited by Redmess on Feb 19th 2019 at 1:14:40 PM

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#7: Feb 22nd 2019 at 5:08:13 AM

[up] I like the idea of having a supertrope and its specific subtrope. However, are there enough distinct examples of both concepts?

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#9: Feb 24th 2019 at 2:22:29 PM

I agree with the supertrope+transplant idea, especially since the Trope Namer clearly doesn't take place After the End.

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#12: Apr 1st 2019 at 12:46:41 PM

Clock is set.

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#13: Apr 5th 2019 at 7:05:37 AM

Thread seems to have consensus on splitting into two tropes:

  • A&E plot: Any circumstances where two characters attempt to breed a race based on their genetics.
  • New name: A mating pair are both Last of Their Kind due to being set After the End. They attempt to recreate their race by getting pregnant.

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#14: Apr 5th 2019 at 7:52:23 AM

I can set up a TLP for the latter.

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#15: Apr 13th 2019 at 7:18:16 AM

Relevant to this thread new tlp.

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#16: May 13th 2019 at 12:43:47 AM

Resetting clock.

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#17: May 13th 2019 at 8:26:44 AM

Supporting Adam and Eve Plot as the broader supertrope and the current post-apocalypse-specific trope being under a new name as well.

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#18: Jun 1st 2019 at 9:15:28 AM

There's a TLP draft which seems to be covering the concept we're discussing broadening Adam and Eve Plot to.

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#19: Jun 2nd 2019 at 7:21:40 AM

[up]That draft seems a bit more specific in that it's about creation myths.

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#21: Jun 19th 2019 at 3:59:22 PM

Most of the non-human examples seem to be missing that criteria; Rio, Futurama, and Xanth.

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#22: Oct 19th 2019 at 10:16:51 PM

Another clock reset.

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#23: Oct 26th 2019 at 12:09:17 PM

Clock expired; closing.

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